relaxandreflect Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 has anyone ever built one or know where i could find plans? i would like to build a 12-string stick, like a chapman stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 i have never known anyone to build one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hy_dro66 Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 That would be fun. I don't know enough about them though. I don't think it would be too hard if you had one to analyze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meegs666 Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 do you mean one of those old fashoined instruments with a skinny little neck and is usually on a ciger box or somekind of economy made body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 do you mean one of those old fashoined instruments with a skinny little neck and is usually on a ciger box or somekind of economy made body? enlighten yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpa Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Very cool instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 I think someone asked this at MIMF a few months back. I foget whether they got an answer though. You could try their archive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren wilson Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 They're not all that different than a guitar, really. The bridge would be the trickiest part, though you could cobble together some individual guitar/bass single-string bridges. Put a felt pad and a zero fret just before the nut (which is really more of a string guide), set the action real low and get some really sensitive active pickups and you should be set. There are lots of other "touch-style" guitar designs you could use for reference as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 they use different frets,do they not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 yes, and a very low action, and there are seperate pickups for the differnt sets of strings, meaning 2 outputs, (so you can play a distorted lead line and a clean bass) i think the hardest part would be to make the string so low yet so they dont buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 you don't have to have 2 outputs...you can just run both pickups to one output Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 then how would you distort one but not the other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 then how would you distort one but not the other you don't...that is just an extra option on the deluxe stick apparently they seem to be offering that option on all of the new models...but you don't HAVE to do that...if i had one i would want full gain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 no but how would you, is it built in distortion or 2 outputs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 no but how would you, is it built in distortion or 2 outputs if you want one side clean and one distorted,you want two outputs...and 2 amps as well,although i think it would be possible to have built in distortion like you say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 exactly yes,exactly to build a stick you only need one output Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Jabsco Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 ive seen built in destortion on a dan electro bass before. sounded pritty bad tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 actually looking at it its quite engenious in the marketing sence, it is one piece of wood. with the fretboard as part of the wood, also the electronics is housed in a box and just installed later, meaning the route for the electronics is a simple angled paralellogram. The only thing that is hard to get is the bridge, and the frets are patented by them as "rail" frets. i suppose if you get the parts you most likely would make the total costcost much less then the manufactored stick (1810 seems a tad too much) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 read up on the frets, the first one is These frets are 3/16 inch diameter stainless stell rods which slide into "open O" configured grooves from the side of the board. The are anchored below the surface with no visible apoxy. These round frets are exceptionally smooth to the fingers and never wear down. They are slightly lower to the board than "jumbo" guitar frets and are uniform and exact in height, allowing for very light touch, a greater dynamic range, and fast execution. seems hard to find but maybe a nail would do? and it seems the slots would be hard to cut the other frets also look strange, they stick out and they have a sharp point, i suspect it would be easy enough to take regular frets and ground them to this angle, i bet they wear down quickly so i think ss frets are recomended also the nut looks very strange. so i think you can be the next chapman and make the inovations yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 i Know you've moved on, but even going back to the two outputs thing, to have clean and dirty for different pickups, could you not just have a stereo jack and send the two outputs to different amps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 i Know you've moved on, but even going back to the two outputs thing, to have clean and dirty for different pickups, could you not just have a stereo jack and send the two outputs to different amps? well it is important with a stick to have active electronics i think,but even if you had passive(you would have to have a blade style pup because of the string spacing i think),i don't think a stereo jack would work like that so no...i think you would need 2 jacks,2 cords,2 amps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 Okey doke, 'twas merely a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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