truerussian558 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 so im already in the design phases of my next project, which will be a neckthrough bass guitar. now my question is that because my finger board ends about 2 inches to the inside of the body, should that part of the neck/fretboard (between the edge of the body and the end of the fb) be tapered, and ofyes, how can do i glue the wings on with a part of the center of the body being tapered. now i know this sounds confusing, but i need an answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Mariah Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 The center block shouldn't be tapered. It should be the same with from the fretboard end to the tail end of the guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 im asking about the bit that still has the fretboard on it, should it be tapered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Mariah Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Okay, I see what you mean now. In that case, you should make the center block wider than the fretboard. This keeps you from having to taper anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 but then how would i taper the fretboard.... and by central block i mean the part of the neck throguh that goes through the body, its not going to have a sepereate block fro the body Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Mariah Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 The area with the fretboard is tapered, the center block portion is not. Gimme a second, I'll whip up a diagram to show you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 damn and i was thinking i could have tapered the fb and the neck together, so they would be flush cut.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Mariah Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 The left hand side shows how the neck would be shaped. The right side shows how it would look with the fretboard on it. You could taper the neck and fretboard at the same time, but you might have problems attaching the sides. It's best to keep the center block area squared and slightly wider than te fretboard. You can then come back once the sides are glued on and shape that area by hand. *EDIT* To clarify, you can come back and shape the NECK TO BODY JOINT area by hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 nice drawing there, so i understand that i should taper the area at the end pf the fretboard beforte i glue, and taper the rest normally. thanls for your advice, and joining just to post on myt thread, edit: i might actually just not taper the end, the difference between the end of the fb and the width of the fb at the edge of the body is only 1/10th of an inch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 and for my second question as i dont ffel like starting a new thread. can p-bass pickups be used without a pickguard, in other words can i screrw the pickup directly into the wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum5545 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Yup! Just make sure you get the depth of the holes right. On one of the pickups (the J one, actually) the hole is too deep and it won't adjust correctly. Oops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 so how deep did you route your pickup cavties? and (wow im full of questions ) will this bridge (second one down GOTOH 206) require a neck angle, and if so how much? edit : wow thats a stupid question, the neck is one piece, it can only be angled in relation tot he wings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum5545 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 too deep... Just make sure that with the pups JUST under the strings, the screws still have something to bite into wood-wise. With EMGs this is especially critical! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 but im tyhinking of (since i only live on my parents allowance) of routing before i buy, so should i go about 1/2" in or is that too shallow/deep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum5545 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 It's 3 in the morning where I am, and my bass is in the car. However, that sounds kinda shallow at 1/2". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Mariah Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 You might want a slight angle just to make sure. 1-2 degrees at most. Bass bridges are usually between Tune-o-Matics and tremolos in height, so the neck angle should reflect that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 but if the neck is all one piece of wood, how will angleing it affect anything..., i see a small point, but will it kill me if there is no neck angle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 this advice seems to be all over the map... neck angle depends on alot of factors...angling it 1 to 2 degrees won't make sure of anything except that you may have to shim the bridge if you do it and don't need it http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.php?showtopic=4599 go there and alot of these questions are answered look at how i made the neck heel square,glued the wings on,then shaped the neck joint after also do a search on neck angles,there are about 100 topics answering it fully in more detail than i have time for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwm Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 truerussian, if you can, buy the book "make your own electric guitar" by melvyn hiscock. it explains all the questions you are asking here. stewart macdonald has it in stock for under $30. money very well spent if you ask me. gwm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 The center block shouldn't be tapered. It should be the same with from the fretboard end to the tail end of the guitar. carvin neckthrough blanks are tapered just like that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 so your saying that it follows the fretboard taper the entire way? even when the fretboard ends. or are you aknowledging (sp...) his post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 so your saying that it follows the fretboard taper the entire way? even when the fretboard ends. yes...i bought one for this guitar http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.ph...7&hl=finished+v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassman Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 I have built twenty something neck thru basses, all with a fully tapered neck- tapered the same as the fretboard, I have not had any problems with glue ups. the angle isn't really that extreme. i see no reason- please give me one if you all think there is- why this should not be done. Peace, Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 I have built twenty something neck thru basses, all with a fully tapered neck- tapered the same as the fretboard, I have not had any problems with glue ups. the angle isn't really that extreme. i see no reason- please give me one if you all think there is- why this should not be done. Peace, Ryan i see no reason not to...in fact it is better that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Jabsco Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 hmm. Do the glued on wings have the angled cut too. Or is it a 90* angle. If it is 90* is the difference just not even noticible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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