killemall8

Same fretwire for years. nothing else new at all. Same identical method, aside from new fret leveling beams (which are nicer than my original) No buzzing when i knock on the guitar.

There is really no other option other than grinding the bottom of the nut down or going deeper with the shelf for the nut. You will still need a shim in the neck pocket if its that high when the bridge is all the way down.

Definitely not the strings themselves. Tried multiple brands, gauges and core types. its definitely fret buzz from the frets, because the last fret doesnt buzz.

I could see that causing this issue. but the chances that 20 different necks, made of different woods, all quartersawn in 5 p-7 pieces all have a warp. Visually i see absolutely no warp. I wish that was it then i could at least lay this to rest. But, ive given up. a year of researching and tested literally ever. single. day. For a year. I just concede to this. I'll never figure it out and my guitars will remain inconsistent. This one will get refunded.

Yes. I just re checked it again. With a straight edge from the first fret to resting on the saddles, the straightedge touches the first fret, and by the 24th there is a 3/32" gap . meaning there is a slope (in the right direction) from the first fret to the 24th. I just dont know what to do anymore. Ive invested over 6000 in tools this year only to have this issue make me turn around and re sell it all.

In my head, that is what i picture it being. I go to great lengths to avoid that. Maybe its a form of that, where i cant see it or measure it.

The interesting thing is that these have no neck angle. All of them are flat mounted because the hipshot bridges are low.

I had been using a crowning file that made them a little more overall round than pyramid shaped. I bought 2 different style of crowning files to try after that. Finished crown is less than .5mm All frets are equally buzzy, so the feeler gauge doesnt help much. No fret buzzes more than others. Its not like some are dead frets and others arent. but i have wondered, what is the ideal clearance between a fretted fret and the one in front of it?

Not that i can tell. 5 and 7 piece necks are super stiff anyway. I also used a precision straight edge to check after and a feeler gauge and there are no gaps

The guitar that i did the demo with in the video has had them leveled twice, with a beam.

Unfortunately not. I never figured that guitar out. Same issue though, on a bunch since then. I purposely level the higher frets more than the lower frets. I always start at the higher frets so i know for sure they have less taken off . I usually dont even level the first fret. Its just mind blowing. I dont understand how people can rough in a radius with a 4" block, smack in frets with a hammer, level and not crown, and it doesnt buzz. But i spend hours on my fretwork and they look immaculate, and they buzz on every fret . In reference to my picking, yes i am picking hard in the video. but even lightly picking the notes die out fast. I even compared it to a facotry guitar with one of my friends and his doesnt buzz at all at that same action height.

Again, it does it with no other hardware other than the bridge and tuners on. And its happened identically with over 10 guitars.

All of those things are solid. The real problem is no matter which fret i have pressed, the string partially hits the fret in front of it and makes it buzz.

I actually have fall away milled into both the fretboard and the frets themselves. The last fret is a little lower than all of the other frets. The buzz happens with no pickups in the guitar and with 2 different types of bridges. Yes, ive tried with both a relatively flat neck and with extreme relief. Not a vibration issue, as its happend on multiple guitars with different bridges. All in standard tuning, standard 10-46. 10-52 helps a little bit since there is more tension, but still noticeable.

If you look at my build thread in the in progress section, you can see probably 10 different fretboard woods from palemoon ebony, wenge, ziricote, paduak, and zebrawood

So it takes a lot for me to post this. If any potential customers see this, my career is over. But i need help. Even back when i built my first few guitars from scratch, i didnt have this problem. I literally use an old rubber mallet to pound in my frets, didnt check with a straight edge, and they played fine. No fretbuzz. But in the past year, around 17 of my guitars have had this unbearable buzzing. Not normal buzz like one dead fret or anything. Literally every single fret buzzes the same. The same type of buzzing you get when you lower the action too far. But even with absurdly high action, it still buzzes. Ive used multiple straight edges, leveling files and crowning files. And nothing makes a difference. If i cant figure this out, i cant keep building. Some of them are still usable, but not ideal. 2 of them that ive made are literally unplayable. Not a single note except the last fret doesnt have buzz. No matter how much fall away i apply, the string still hits the fret before it. It literally doesnt even seem possible. But i cant find my way around it and it is making me lose my mind. Last fall i made 4 guitars in a row that were the exact opposite. I couldnt even get them to buzz if i lowered the action beyond what is considered low. And Ive build them all in an identical method. Here is what im describing:

Not on the guitar. I mean how you have it in the drying rack. It needs to have either weight on it or be on a flat surface or it will twist and cup as it dries.

I would support the thinner wood with something stiffer and flat. It will warp or twist if you dont.

On the zebrawood top? I plan on just oiling that one. Zebrawood takes oil really well.

I get that. but you can make one. Only takes a few minutes

Ive found that its much cleaner and easier to make the corners of a neck pocket a 1/2 radius, and it will match your bearing bit.

it leveled out 99% i would say

I used the same 2k brand i normally do, but i found they had a flat finish available. sprayed it the same way, but only 2 coats total. It doesnt spray very smooth and takes like a day to flatten out.

Yes sir, i use a detail spray gun. super low PSI and hardly any fluid actually coming out. gives you a lot of control. Was a dang expensive piece, too. 300 for that billet that i still had to resaw