truerussian558 Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 just to clarify, a minor pentatopnic scale is has a root the next note is minor 3d the next note is a perf4th the next note is a perf5th and the last note is a minor 7th then repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 im gonna do a small lesson on consonnace and dissonance since the main reason to learn theory is to make songs sound good, A consonant sound provides a feeling of resolution and that no more musical action is needed, notes that are consonant when played in that key include a perfect unison(same tone ) octave minor 3d major 3d minor 6th major 6th and perfect 5th dissonance creates a feeling of tension and makes the music go to a point of resolution (a consonant note), These intervals are minor 2nd major 2nd Tritone (AKA or augment 4th OR deminished 5th) minor 7th and major 7th a perfect 4th can be considered either consonance or dissonance depending on context Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 ok, this is getting confusing Maybe, i can school someone, let me try, this will be funny ------------------------5-8 -------------------5-8----- --------------5-7---------- ----------5-7-------------- -----5-7------------------- -5-8----------------------- Thats the petonic scale, move it anywhere on the fret board, so it could look like this ------------------------1-4 --------------------1-4---- ---------------1-3--------- ----------1-3-------------- -----1-3------------------- -1-4----------------------- or any other spot Hows that? is it right? Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 yes, you got it, the fingerings stay the same if you move it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 ok, pentaonic done, now, whats more good ones?? Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 lets see, a basic major scale, but it would be a lot better if you would learn to make the scales yourself, better then memorizing scales a popular form of a C major scale (doe a deer a female deer....) -------------------------5 7 8 7 5------------------------- -------------------5 6 8-----------8 6 5------------------ ----------2 4 5 7------------------------7 5 4 2---------- ----2 3 5-----------------------------------------5 3 2---- 3 5-----------------------------------------------------5 3- -------------------------------------------------------------- this scale is also movable, just the fingerings stayt the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Are we ready for C-A-G-E-D yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 we're actually taking it by steps and helping with any questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki swordsman Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 and doing deer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 that was great edit: muahah fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 and doing deer D'oh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki swordsman Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 if people are finding this thread useful, is it worth stickying?, cos it could be lost soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 I am finiding it useful!! I am actualy learning something now!! yes, please sticky Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki swordsman Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 cheers curtis so how's the intervals going for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 i am still working on scales different roots of pentaonic and blues scales Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki swordsman Posted July 11, 2004 Report Share Posted July 11, 2004 sti st stic stickida sti sticky? or say something if u no like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki swordsman Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 any theory buffs around(maybe jazz)? got any cool sounding scales or ideas with a min3 and maj7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wylde1919 Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 Hey key are you asking if we have any ideas on how to play over a minor/major 7 chord (i.e. C Eb G B ) or are you asking about playing over a progression of iii to VII? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dangerouso Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 Melodic Minor or Harmonic Minor will do the trick 1, 2, b3, 4, 5, 6, 7 or 1, 2, b3, 4, 5, b6, 7. The iii-VII progression is a less simple answer, but a "minor" Lydian with both a b7 and a 7 would do the trick 1, 2, b3, #4, 5, 6, b7, 7. You could drop the 2 if you wanted to get it back to a seven-tone scale. You could also just play some minor scale (pentatonic, Dorian, Phrygian, Aeolian) for the iii, and a major (major pent., Ionian, Lydian) over the VII. I don't know how Mixolydian would fare over the VII, with its b7. Might bring some cool tension to the mix, especially as a carry over from the iii. Major pentatonic might actually be the best choice over both. Some "blues" ambiguity introduced by having both the b3 and 3, and you stay away from the tricky question of 4s and 7s altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki swordsman Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 sorry, i meant over a bass riff that uses only root,min3,maj7 i know i could use harmonic minor or something but was jus wondering if anyone had ideas to funk it up or something... anyway i've been messin with raising the 6th and 7th on a natural minor scale ...kinda cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky1 Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 (edited) Edited September 19, 2004 by lucky1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki swordsman Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 kindof stating the obvious.. PS: many things come out of yngwies mouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky1 Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 (edited) Edited September 19, 2004 by lucky1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dangerouso Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 And to clarify to you lucky, the pentatonic minor is NOT the blues scale. Although pentatonic minor might be the most prevelent scale in the blues what is commonly refered to as the "Blues" scale is a hexatonic scale, consisting of minor pentatonic plus the b5. By degrees: 1, b3, 4, b5, 5, b7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky1 Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 (edited) Edited September 19, 2004 by lucky1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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