litchfield Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Fabricating one of these. I have most of it figured out, except how to do the springs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 If you do let me know... I seen that a long time ago but didn't know what it was until I got here and you posted those pics of the white LP on my thread (the kahler one) . but I decided to write Floyd and asked them about it, and this was their reply. That bridge is not available. We are re-designing that bridge to fix problems it had. We hope to have the top mount Les Paul version of the Original Floyd Rose and a top mount version of the SpeedLoader tremolo as well next year. Thanks for your email, Floyd Sweet, I might get one if they come out next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68 lost souls Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 How long ago did you email them? I am realy interested in putting that on a guitar Im building next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litchfield Posted August 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 When I emailed them, they only mentioned the speedloader.....OFR one of those will be nice to see again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 I e-mailed them yesterday. I got the response early today. Can wait to see it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlexVDL Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 I've been looking for those for quite some time now.. I want a floyd rose on my Gibson les paul, but I absolutely don't want to route a big hole into that nice wood I've they're available I'll definately buy one!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68 lost souls Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Does anyone know if there more stable than OFR's. I mean by looking at it I would imagine so and some of the problomes of instability in tuning wouldnt exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litchfield Posted August 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Hell, I'll buy 2 You hearin me Derek? Tell floyd you want the first 5! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
american_jesus Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 there was a prototype made, and in production lespaul floys rose, in the early 80's. it was just like that one(the bunch of thin springs in the back) and had terrible stability and stuff, as well as other issues. if this one he's redisigning is anygood, i'll be quite surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLS Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 I prefer the Kahler Version they even come in colors!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 BLS, this was the first one that I saw after Licth posted on my thread, but they are not available! And Floyd will be making them again hopefuly next year. So if Kahler decides to stop waisting time making G-clubs and start putting this together I think A lot of people will buy them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executioner606 Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 BLS, this was the first one that I saw after Licth posted on my thread, but they are not available! And Floyd will be making them again hopefuly next year. So if Kahler decides to stop waisting time making G-clubs and start putting this together I think A lot of people will buy them... I know Gary is making trems again but i dunno if theyre making this model. Neal Moser is an authorized kahler dealer now , get ahold of him. He'd be able to tell you if gary is making them again or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 I will try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLS Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 http://www.nealmoser.com/kahlerusa.htm im not sure if Kahler will be making those Les Paul type bridges. Either way its great news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litchfield Posted August 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 However, I dont want a hole in my LP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litchfield Posted August 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 But, if ya wants one, How's about $20? What you gotta route for: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68 lost souls Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Im just planning my SG at the moment (not nere buying things for it yet so Im ok for having to wait a year for floyd to start making them again)and at first I wanted a floyd but then I was put off by the fact that first it wouldnt fit the body Im making because the block is to thick and second the fact that it has to be setup again everytime you change string gauge and/or tuning. This seems to solve the problom abit and I would prefer the floyd to a bigsby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 I'd just put a real Floyd Rose (regular style ) or an Ibanez trem in a Les Paul. I saw a Paul with an original style Floyd a few years back, retrofitted, i should have bought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68 lost souls Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Well the thing is that it can go on an SG aswel where a regular floyd wont. The block for a regular floyd is to big to fit the narrow body of the SG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 The block for a regular floyd is to big to fit the narrow body of the SG. I don't think so, remember that the neck on the SG is angled, so the Floyd will fit higher on the body, it will not be recessed like in the Ibanez. However, I dont want a hole in my LP. I'm with you on this Litch, that's why I haven't got the Kahler, I thought that the Kahler would sit on top like the Floyd, but I e-maied Neal and he told me that there would be a need to carve a small section for the cam to sit propertly on the body. So I will wait until the Floyd is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLS Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 The Les Paul kahler need s a route?? That makes alot of sense.... why not just buy a flatmount then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 The Les Paul kahler need s a route?? That makes alot of sense.... why not just buy a flatmount then. I think by flat mount you refer to the one posted on the top of this page? by Litch? that one needs more routing than the LP one, bee the springs at the bottom with the cam, thats all that needs to be routed, but I don't want to do this in my LP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executioner606 Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 I think hes trying to say why use the LP style one if your going to have to route ? You might as well just get the flatmount one since your gonna hafta route either way. I cant blame you for not wanting to dig into your LP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLS Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 ^ yeh thats what i mean. This whole LP Kahler seems useless if you still nee to route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren wilson Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 I met Floyd Rose in person today at a music industry trade show, and i asked him about that flat-mount original Floyd Rose. He said it was designed and built by Schaller, and when they sent him one to review, he found that all those little springs did not have sufficient tension to counteract the string tension on the guitar, unless you were using .008s. It didn't meet his approval, but Kramer went ahead and sold them anyway. Floyd also said they're working on a new Speedloader flat-mount. I have to say, Floyd Rose was a super-nice guy, and was very gracious and took a lot of time to answer my questions, and personally demonstrated the Speedloader system to me and talked about the design and manufacturing of the strings. I was extremely skeptical about the system at first, but having seen it in action, i understand it a lot better now. The Speedloader is actually the system he originally wanted to design all those years ago, but nobody could figure out how to manufacture strings to the tolerances required. Floyd had to design the machinery that attaches the "bullets" to the ends of the string with an accuracy of 3 thousandths of an inch. Pretty impressive. I got a couple of other interesting insights from him as well. He said that when licensed Floyd Rose bridges were manufactured to his specifications (right down to the alloy used for the base plate and knife edges, and the case-hardening process), tuning stability and longevity was excellent. Most licensees don't follow his specs down to that level of detail, which is why a lot of the licensed bridges suck. He also said that on guitars with bodies made of softer wood, he prefers to put in maple dowels in the body and then mount the studs in those, which prevents the wood-compression related failures that can occur over time with the studs mounted in softer wood. It was a great experience being able to chat face-to-face with such a brilliant innovator. He's a true genius and a true gentleman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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