Duff Beer Man Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 Well, i was looking around the sims custom led site. Just looking around and i saw they did painting of guitars too. Well from that page they have a link to a page called the chrome zone. This stuff looks like real chrome, just wondering if anyone has any ideas how they did it. I know its not "real" chrome, but still have a look and write what ya think. My Webpage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGGR Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 (edited) This is one nice looking guitar. But I heard Ibanez is bringing out version like this in 2005. Looking at detail page......I suspect this guitar top hasn't been chrome painted, but has mirror type pick guard material glued on top of guitar. Just like real Vai's "Bad Horsie" guitar. More detail Here actual Ibanez guitar........you can see the material ending at edge of guitar. Ibanez detail Still great looking guitar. Edited December 27, 2004 by RGGR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Beer Man Posted December 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 does the real bad horsie have a pealoid binding aroung it like the one in that pic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Well, i was looking around the sims custom led site. Just looking around and i saw they did painting of guitars too. Well from that page they have a link to a page called the chrome zone. This stuff looks like real chrome, just wondering if anyone has any ideas how they did it. I know its not "real" chrome, but still have a look and write what ya think. My Webpage Man I just took a look at that web page that's some cool stuff A few of my guitar body's like my IMPALER would look deadly done like that I think iam going to ask them a few things and see how much geting this done would cost me !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 (edited) I think this is how it's done!! Hey check out this link I think it along the same line's as the last one it's a spray on chrome hear's the link it's the teck info http://www.sprayonchrome.com/techdata.html EDIT:>free DVD from Spectra Chrome, this stuff is realy cool!! http://www.sprayonchrome.com/Gallery.html !!METAL MATT!! Edited December 28, 2004 by !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 Hey guy's I gust got back an email from Martin Sims of Chrome Zone guitar paint and he said, send us your guitar bodies bare wood sanded to 240/320 grit. We can work with all types of wood. We would need your body for 3/4 weeks. Shipping usually takes about 2 working days there and back. We do take work from Canada no problem. To have the chrome effect on your guitar bodies will cost £350.00 a piece.You will see many examples on our web site and there is a price list for spray work as well. I hope this help's any one that want's a chrome guitar !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Beer Man Posted January 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 I want a chrome guitar but i dont want to pay that much. I think im just gonna stick with and try the chrome mylar stuff for my vai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryL Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 That's Damn Near 700 Dollars! The Pound is at 1.91 America today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Yep you would have to realy want a chrome guitar !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikbojerik Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Save yourself the expense and trouble (here). You'd need the kind with the mirror on the back, to avoid scratching the reflective surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Beer Man Posted January 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Is that stuff better then the mylar stuff? Just curious cause i was going to use mylar. Is that basicly a big pick guard? If it is, then i dont know if i want it. I was going to use mylar cause it has a sticky back, so i wouldn't have to bolt it on. I just think the less screws people see the better. I hate having a guitar that is all bolted and screwed together (like pickguard wise) i kinda it makes the guitar look like the whole front is just bolted on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Here is my concern with what they are doing. I know the system they are using, I know the systems most guys are using, and if you are GREAT with the systems they look very good, sadly the finish will deteriorate over time with the movement of the wood as I've stated before, but, take a look at some of these pictures from Sim's site http://www.simscustom.com/images/gallery/c...ne/large/07.jpg http://www.simscustom.com/images/gallery/c...ne/large/01.jpg http://www.simscustom.com/images/gallery/c...ne/large/03.jpg http://www.simscustom.com/images/gallery/c...ne/large/16.jpg pictures can hide a lot, you can see massive orange peel in these pictures, they don't all look like that, but it's the risk you take. Would you be happy paying out $700 and getting a finish like that? That is why I have not offered chrome finishing, I've tried many systems and have not been happy with them, I've been 98% happy with some with the initial finish, but over time with wood movement I was dissappointed. Doug at Trillian guitars is doing chrome finishes, I believe he's using the cosmichrome system but I'm not 100% sure. I haven't seen his finishes but in talking with him via email he says he's got it down very good. Although he and I have butted heads in the past it's all water under the bridge, you all know Scott from this forum and he's shown some very nice work (rosenberger in case you're not sure which Scott I'm talking about) and I would suggest talking to Scott or Doug if you really want a chrome finish done. I can't speak for the work directly, and I can't make any statements as to the longevity of the finish, maybe he's come up with a better system than I have, I don't know, but it beats sending off to england if you're in north america Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Jeremy, like I have told a few times before the new system works wonders, its ability to build up the film as you spray is awsome, and I was in Jersey the other day and saw a Chopper that was done with this paint, (the one ALSA) sells. He was there when the gas tank and tins were painted and he says that they spray all this liquid over the pieces and you can see the chrome building up on the surface... My only big concerns is that after going to the ALSA site and seeing the way the paint is applied, and knowing how wood, especialy bare wood reacts to water, what will happen when they start pouring this massive amount of water inside the control cavities, bridge and pups routing, neck pockets??? For those of you that haven't seen the way this is applied look here . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Maiden, I've used the Alsa system, you're overlooking the HUGE variable in a chopper vs guitar, and that is WOOD. Wood shrinks and expands, you end up seeing the grain lines in it, that is where it's not a great product for a guitar. On a bike where you are dealing with steel it's not an issue, yes, it still contracts and expands, but you won't see grain lines like in wood. It's also brutally expensive to experiment with, (I learned the hard way LOL, I thought it would be easy and no issues) plus you better have wicked guns and a dust free environment, there is NO sanding this stuff or you are starting over at square one again. It really is a wicked product, just not suited to a substrate such as wood that moves that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Sorry jeremy, I think you read my post wrong, I love the product, and I'm concerned about a right application of a guitar. not just because of the grain, but with the problem of the wood bloating when all the water runs thru it. I myself will be against doing it to a wood guitar, but if somebody wants a chrome guitar, I could suggest getting an acrylic JS and having that body chromed... I think this method of painting is not suitable for wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Beer Man Posted January 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 If i use mylar do i just put it on and leave it? Or can am i supposed to spray clear coat on the mylar? Just wondeirng cause time is building down till i start building my two new projects for 05 and i need to know everything before i get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Beer Man Posted January 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Anybody know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Well, lets put it this way, it will have nothing protecting it if you use mylar, it will scratch easily, but clear won't really bond well to it. All you have to do is read the post I made about chrome finishes again man, the mylar is covered in there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Beer Man Posted January 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Ok, lgm (and anyone for that matter) i would like ur opinion on this. I was looking around the jemsite and a guy there just got a guitar chromed by sims. However, he only did the front. Please look at the pics he posted cause to me it looks like its just a gaint pickguard glued on and the edges rounded over. Let me know what you think and if it is how would they do it. pics here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Beer Man Posted January 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croaticum Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 there is thing called liquid crome!!!! lgm brobably knows much more abou that (since he has done tons of airbrushing) it is paint for a airbrush, i dont know it it sels for spray guns, but still. the guys that do finishes on bikes (if you know any bike shops in your area) could sell you some, they usualy have it! well, as i said, LGM could maybe help you more with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Beer Man Posted January 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Save yourself the expense and trouble (here). You'd need the kind with the mirror on the back, to avoid scratching the reflective surface. ← Which one would i actually buy, cause this seems like the best way to go. Is it basicly and acrilic sheet with chrome mylar stuck to the back of it with the acrlic on the front so the mylar cant get hurt? It so this is exactly what im looking for. It doesnt say prices tho, and there are a lot of different types it seems, which one is the one you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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