b5111987 Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 Hi im making my own guitars and am having a hard time with the finish i have put on a primer but im wanting a matt black finish now do i just spray on the matt black paint and then thats it or do i need a lacquer or will that make it shiny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 i ASSUME WHEN YOU SAY MATTE BLACK YOU MEAN FLAT BLACK. DAMN, I hate caps lock!! I think the flat black is a good look. You can't wax, top-coat or rub-out flat or ultra-flat black. All you can do is use a really durable paint and clean it. The best ultra-flat I have used is rattle-can Krylon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b5111987 Posted July 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 i ASSUME WHEN YOU SAY MATTE BLACK YOU MEAN FLAT BLACK. DAMN, I hate caps lock!! I think the flat black is a good look. You can't wax, top-coat or rub-out flat or ultra-flat black. All you can do is use a really durable paint and clean it. The best ultra-flat I have used is rattle-can Krylon. ← im not sure im meen so thet the black isnt shiny like n a gothic type guitar this coulor http://www.liquid-fire.co.uk/musegear/musegear/blackbody.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 I think what he is asking is whether or not he will need a clear coat over the flat black paint, and if so, are there flat clear coats? Is that what you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b5111987 Posted July 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 I think what he is asking is whether or not he will need a clear coat over the flat black paint, and if so, are there flat clear coats? Is that what you mean? ← yeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b5111987 Posted July 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 i want a matt black finish yeh so iv sprayed it matt black now it the a natte clear coat or do i just leave it as it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 i want a matt black finish yeh so iv sprayed it matt black now it the a natte clear coat or do i just leave it as it is ← What kind of spray paint did you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b5111987 Posted July 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 i want a matt black finish yeh so iv sprayed it matt black now it the a natte clear coat or do i just leave it as it is ← What kind of spray paint did you use? ← im goin to spray it matte black so what should i use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 i want a matt black finish yeh so iv sprayed it matt black now it the a natte clear coat or do i just leave it as it is ← What kind of spray paint did you use? ← im goin to spray it matte black so what should i use ← See if you can find some automotive spray paint in flat black. I would imagine it would be tough enough to not need a clear coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 The reason the different lacquers have different sheens is an additive called flattener. This is the clear goop that's on the bottom of a gallon can. When it dries it looks just like chalk. If you scoop out aliitle on a stick and let it dry you'll see. You can get flat lacquer, clear or colored, or you can buy flattener and add it yourself to any gloss lacquer and produce it yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Additionally or alternatively, couldn't you still use a clearcoat with a matte or satin finish? So the paint would be normal flat black paint, which is still semi-shiny by itself, and then cover it with a satin clearcoat to take away any remaining 'shininess'? I'm not a finishing expert-- heck, I'm not even a finishing beginner.... but this would be my first instinct. Abrasing the clearcoat with steel wool (sounds like a lot of work, mind you) could also help produce that satin/matte look. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 So, that makes me and my reply , what, chopped liver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Somehow I missed it. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 The two Krylon rattle-cans that will take a beating and stay flat/matte are: P/N S03725 Semi-flat P/N S03727 MaxFlat Both are very durable and black. Greg, the chopped liver post wasn't aimed at you. I have been getting ignored a lot lately and am getting kind of a complex about it. Bout time to shut up for a while before I develope a real problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b5111987 Posted July 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 so basicall i should spray it matte black and then just leave it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 That's an option. I think what you'll discover is that people have given you several options, and it's up to you to pick one. Now, as a TOTAL-KNOW-NOTHING about finishing, but still being a man of some reason and common sense, I would be more tempted to go with the satin-finished clearcoat for the layer of protection it offers. No matter what paint you pick, it won't be as durable as a proper clearcoat. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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