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Ok this is going to seem weird but your help is appreciated :D

There is a couple of songs our band play that sound quite cool with feedback gradually coming in before playing... i also like feedback occasinally at the end of songs (well i dont, crowd do though :D )

However without turning my Line6 Spider 2 - 212 amp up onto Full (not healthy) it wont feedback, i do the usual guitar on full and place pups infronta the amp, but no feedback...

Perfect for those who want a quiet set... but not helpful for me!

Now i was wondering, is it possible that i can wire some form of circuit into my guitars (near the volume pot (or using one of the tone pots?) to create feedback?

Cheers guys

~~ TS ~~

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Ok this is going to seem weird but your help is appreciated  :D

There is a couple of songs our band play that sound quite cool with feedback gradually coming in before playing... i also like feedback occasinally at the end of songs (well i dont, crowd do though  :D )

However without turning my Line6 Spider 2 - 212 amp up onto Full (not healthy) it wont feedback, i do the usual guitar on full and place pups infronta the amp, but no feedback...

Perfect for those who want a quiet set... but not helpful for me!

Now i was wondering, is it possible that i can wire some form of circuit into my guitars (near the volume pot (or using one of the tone pots?) to create feedback?

Cheers guys

~~ TS ~~

you should try the Sustainer. it has 2 modes: harmonic & sustain. in the harmonic mode u can hear the 5th harmony and it's kinda like feedback. in the sustain mode u can hold the note forever (or 'til the battery get totally dry).

for more info on 'how can i make a sustainer by myself' check this topic:

DIY Sustainer

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Hey Anti

Ive been following the sustainer thread but dont rate my self as capable of undertaking such a project... id much rather buy a pre built sustainer and install it, however im on a tight budget...

Does anyone else have any ideas?

~~ TS ~~

check this out:

Feedback

it's pretty simple and cheap

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I think of is that the Line 6 Spider might be part of the problem. Don’t get me wrong. I use both a Guitar Port for home recording/demos and a PodXT Live through a tube power amp and a 4x12 cabinet for live gigs, so I really like the sound. But never the less I have experienced that it is in fact harder to get feedback with this type of computer simulated amps. The reason might be (I’m no specialist in this field) that all those products convert the signal to digital numbers, apply mathematical formulas on those numbers, and then convert it back to analogue signals. All of this takes time and I believe that this delay makes it harder to get a good feedback.

A compressor/booster might help but it will also alter the sound. In the case with a digital amp simulator you also have the risk of overdriving the input stage. That type of distortion is generally considered to be really ugly sounding.

First try another amp with your guitar and see what’s happening. If it works there the problem isn’t in your guitar (just to be sure). Then you can try a trick that I have been using to get feedback on bedroom level recordings. Get a compressor and a small practice amp (a pignose works great, but even really cheep ones can work). Split the signal before the Spider and get it to the compressor and then to the practise amp. Compress the living daylight out of the signal with the stomp box and you will get feedback at reasonably levels. And the audience will hear your feedbacking guitar through the Spider.

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:D

I had one and sold it the week before i brought my Line 6, thinking the distortion on the amp would be good enough on its own (which it is)

Ill have to hunt another one down now :D

Cheers for the link haggardguy

~~ TS ~~

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It also depends on your feedback technique. It's not entirely to do with your guitar/amp, although they do influence it.

I also have a Line 6 Spider amp, and the best way for me to get feedback is to get the amp off the floor for starters (usually on a chair). Then, I play around with fretting notes on different strings and using different pickups (3 single coils).

I find that depending on where you play the note, and where it's fretted in relation to the pickup used, you end up with different harmonics that feed back much better than other notes.

For example, when I play an F on the 10th fret of the G string, and use the neck & centre pickups together, I can get endless sustain and feedback on moderate distortion settings (the amp model set on crunch, with the drive backed off a little), standing a metre or so from the amp. Playing an F# or E on either side of the F won't feed back at all though, unless I crank up the drive (or change the amp model to insanse :D).

I'm not sure if what I'm saying is very clear... does you understand what I mean?

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I get the idea Stickmangumby, however ive not had the same luck you have...

I dont use any of the preset models since i dont paticually like any of them, my "D" channel patch is the gain around the 7 mark, with bass on about 5, mids on about 3 and treble on about 7, the channel volume is on 8, with no effects and only slight reverb (2 at most)

However on both my BC rich which has 2 humbuckers or my cruiser with H/S/H config, i cant get any real feedback from it,

I think ill go with the new theory which is get a pedal infront of the Line 6 and force it to feedback wether it likes it or not :D

If its anyhelp, i havent got the noise gate enabled on the amp (seen no need to as of yet)

~~ TS ~~

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dude dude dude feedback with any of that modeling stuff is easy. and yes i have a modeling amp although its for clean tones only.

but man its easy to get the feedback rolling put a small little amp cranked up wide open near you and use it to drive your amp into feedback. i will draw a picture.

ok

Guitar>splitter box>volume pedal>miniamp close to you

>main amp

you set the volume of the mini amp and posisiton close to you like a monitor and use it to get feedback. the volume pedal helps control it better. also it lets you kill it completely when you dont' want it. other than a sustainor it doesn't get any easier than that. i have used this system for years.

the second amp simply imitates what it gets and since your guitar is being sustained by the feedback its a viscious cycle the second amp acts as a slave even if its digital.

thank you thank you. no applause nesecary no really your too kind..

lol

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also on a second thought while your at it you could just impliment all this in a volume pedal with all the jacks and everything built in. anyway hope that helps you.

also someone mentioned above that it might be your guitar... thats very true it could very well be the guitar we had several behringer line six and johnson amps and never had a problem making them scream for more. best of luck.

ps that mini amp done' thave to be big man.. you can tape a danelectro pocket headphone amp to a mic stand and use that even though its like half a watt or something. as long as its got a speaker and you can get close to it. that little dano amp man you can tape to the guitar.

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