!!METAL MATT!! Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 dude, matt. you spelled living wrong in your signature I did not!! !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) No exams till monday (and its an easy one) so I figured I'd have the evening and tomorrow morning off More experiments with wood dye I'm liking this dye... this colour is called indian rosewood, so unsurprisingly its the same colour as the fretboard. These colours seem to go well together to me. MORE: http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h86/bent...ay/PHTO0390.jpg http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h86/bent...ay/PHTO0389.jpg http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h86/bent...ay/PHTO0380.jpg See if you can spot my one (thankfully small) screw-up on the pickup routes Groovy biscuit joints (they add 'character' ) Another nice wood grain: http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h86/bent...th_PHTO0378.jpg Cleaned up pickup routes: http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h86/bent...th_PHTO0364.jpg http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h86/bent...th_PHTO0361.jpg http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h86/bent...th_PHTO0362.jpg And my plan worked! (crappy photo) I routed channels in the sides of the body wings before gluing up, so that when I routed for the pickups it would overlap the channels and give me a nice place to feed all the wires. I'm happy so far This is so much more fun than exam revision. BTW, this is not finished Still plenty to do including more routing, I've just done a bit of sanding and dying which I thought looked cool, and I've routed for the pickups. Still an good couple of months work left All comments / opinions welcome Edited June 15, 2006 by Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 I'm liking this colour scheme more than the earlier, more redish one on Page 4, and I'm thinking of sticking with it. The dyed centre laminate looks pretty cool too IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matttheguy Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 I'd say age those pickup covers a bit, the white contrasts too much, in my opinion. Either that, or get black covers. There are already a few different contrasting colors in your project, from the woods, and that white just doesn't sit well. Other than that, the guitar looks nice! Are the biscuit joints from the table? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 I thought about using black pickup covers. I'm going to wait until its finished and see what looks best. I hadnt thought of aging them though... I'll give that some more thought. The hardware will be black so black covers may look best. The biscuit joints are from the table and I think they look pretty cool. (The nails were less cool though ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matttheguy Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Aging them would bring you more towards the lighter woods' colors, but with black hardware, black covers may be the best choice. Also, is your slip up on the pickup routes on the bridge pickup, on the right screw recess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Also, is your slip up on the pickup routes on the bridge pickup, on the right screw recess? Yep! template slipped I'm not too bothered really, its not *that* glaringly obvious, except when viewed close up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matttheguy Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 It's not that noticeable, but you had mentioned it and that was all I could see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyd Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Looking good! i really like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Its now fretted, sanded and I've begun to re-stain it. I also shaped the neck properly, and I'm happy with the back contour. Feels comfy. Fretting wasnt nearly as scary as I thought it would be... I've leveled them, but they're still yet to be recrowned. Pics tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Ok... so I didnt take any pics It was my 18th birthday though so I think I have a valid excuse I've begun finishing the guitar with danish oil, so I'll get pics once its had its 3 coats (with 6 hours drying time between coats ) Its looking pretty good so far IMO. Danish oil is so much more forgiving than lacquer I had a little problem with it though... seems that Colron had the bright idea of using the same solvent in their wood dye as in their danish oil . And after pre-dying some scrap wood, I forgot to test it on scrap! I did, however, test it in the tremolo cavity before I used it on the body and noticed that the dye was smearing slightly- so I used 2 separate cloths for the dyed and undyed areas. Pics later! (I'll try to honour that promise this time too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campylobacter Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 It was my 18th birthday though so I think I have a valid excuse Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Thanks Its been 6 hours since the first coat of danish oil and its still sticky Thing is its only the dyed areas that are still sticky- the bare wood bits are dry. Should I be worried? Could the dye and the danish oil be uncompatible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Still just as sticky as ever Says that it should be dry and recoatable in 6 hours on the can- its been nearly 10 hours. I'm going to my mums for a few days now- so if its not dry when I get back I'll know something's wrong. It seems pretty stupid for a company to have 2 products in the same line that are uncompatible with oneanother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Ok, just 1 pic for now cos I only have about 3 mins to post this, but plenty more to come later (probably tomorrow) Danish oil over dye was still sticky after a week so I gave it several really light dust coats of actrylic laquer, and I'm really pleased with the results. Its still all nice and satin with open pores etc, but its no longer sticky Neck still feels nice too I lied- heres 4 photos (you have no idea how long i spent sanding it to get it that smooth btw ) sorry that sounds really convoluted- i'm in a hurry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Levelled and re-crowned all the frets today... no point in taking any pics really because theres really not that much to see turned out well- as far as I can tell it looks to all be perfectly flat. I need to come up with a headstock logo before tomorrow... I'll have to get designing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Danish oil over dye was still sticky after a week so I gave it several really light dust coats of actrylic laquer, and I'm really pleased with the results. I'm wondering how you were able to get that too work? In theory, the acrylic isn't going to bind at all with the oil --I'd have thought it would come off really quickly. I don't have any experience with Danish oil, but if I remember right, it's not supposed to become totally hard and dry. Anyway, I'll have a look through the Understanding Wood Finishing book when I can get a chance, maybe that will explain what's going on. Seems to me though that you might as well start planning on stripping the guitar back and starting again.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Seems to me though that you might as well start planning on stripping the guitar back and starting again.. God I hope not! I've had all the sanding I can take! Not the end of the world if thats the case, but a major PITA! Seems perfectly hard to me though, and I cant pick any of it off with my fingernail I don't have any experience with Danish oil, but if I remember right, it's not supposed to become totally hard and dry. Maybe you dont remember right I thought it did become hard and dry... Please do tell me what the book says, Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 (edited) BTW- Its too late for me to go out to the garage and check, but I *think* I recall it saying on the danish oil can that it could be used as an undercoat for lacquer... Edited July 17, 2006 by Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 BTW- Its too late for me to go out to the garage and check, but I *think* I recall it saying on the danish oil can that it could be used as an undercoat for lacquer... I get the feeling that every brand of 'Danish Oil' has its own formula --one has nothing to do with the other. So it's certainly possible that the one you're using is compatible with the acrylic lacquer. Sorry, don't mean to alarm you...if it's working, then it ain't broken, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jipp Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 BTW- Its too late for me to go out to the garage and check, but I *think* I recall it saying on the danish oil can that it could be used as an undercoat for lacquer... I get the feeling that every brand of 'Danish Oil' has its own formula --one has nothing to do with the other. So it's certainly possible that the one you're using is compatible with the acrylic lacquer. Sorry, don't mean to alarm you...if it's working, then it ain't broken, right? Very cool guitar. I can already see in this hobbie like any other iv been into. comming up with a orginal idea will automaticaly be argued someoen has done it before. So, ill just come up with something i like for my first build and let people tell me im un orginal i guess. lots of learning to do i see. keep up the good work. chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 I get the feeling that every brand of 'Danish Oil' has its own formula --one has nothing to do with the other. So it's certainly possible that the one you're using is compatible with the acrylic lacquer. Sorry, don't mean to alarm you...if it's working, then it ain't broken, right? wink.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 I checked the can; it doesnt mention lacquer specifically, but it says that it 'makes a good primer' No need to apologise either- if there was going to be something wrong with the finish I'd want to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 I'd say age those pickup covers a bit, the white contrasts too much, in my opinion. Either that, or get black covers. There are already a few different contrasting colors in your project, from the woods, and that white just doesn't sit well. I'll second Matt's opinion also. Make a cup of tea (no milk, no sugar thanks), dunk your pickups rings and forget about it for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 The can says: "Colron Danish Oil is a special blend of resins and pure tung oil, which combine to provide a hard, durable, water resistant finish" ...[then it goes on for a while about how nice it looks]... "It can be used as a primer, or as a finish for wood. Colron Danish Oil is easy to maintain and can be used indoors or outdoors" it takes 6 hours to cure according to the can Seems the phrase "Danish Oil" can mean just about anything And I've been old enough to drink for 10 days I'd say age those pickup covers a bit, the white contrasts too much, in my opinion. Either that, or get black covers. There are already a few different contrasting colors in your project, from the woods, and that white just doesn't sit well. I'll second Matt's opinion also. Make a cup of tea (no milk, no sugar thanks), dunk your pickups rings and forget about it for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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