biliousfrog Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 look at this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/White-and-black-zebr...1QQcmdZViewItem I spotted that it was a fake just by looking at the thumbnail, everything about it is wrong...but when I showed my work collegue he said that the guitarist in his band (who works in a music store) had seen one that somebody bought a few weeks ago. The guy wanted to show off his "bargain" ebay purchase from China, a real Gibson Zakk Wylde Les Paul for under £200! oh dear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGman Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 look at this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/White-and-black-zebr...1QQcmdZViewItem I spotted that it was a fake just by looking at the thumbnail, everything about it is wrong...but when I showed my work collegue he said that the guitarist in his band (who works in a music store) had seen one that somebody bought a few weeks ago. The guy wanted to show off his "bargain" ebay purchase from China, a real Gibson Zakk Wylde Les Paul for under £200! oh dear The things that i found wrong with the guitar: Bullseye is poorly done Incorrect pickups Knobs No les paul truss rod cover Tuners are cheapo's BOLT ON No trapazoid inlays Chinese seller and cheap price Im probably not even scratching the surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksound Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Not to mention they didn't even try to disguise the Epiphone headstock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spazzyone Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 So is it any wonder why Gibson and Fender are suing people for copyright infringment its just a shame that the only people who get nailed are people that make great guitars that are not copies they just look similar but very diiferant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biliousfrog Posted October 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 I've seen hundreds of copies, some good, some very bad but the thing that struck me with this.....what makes this the lowest of the low as far as I'm concerned is the Gibson logo on the headstock. It left me dumbfounded... Because despite it being a chinese seller & despite the terrible bullseye & bolt-on maple neck, the dot inlays & wrong headstock...someone actually thinks that it's close enough to look genuine!...& unfortunately, we live in a very material world where brand names mean more than reliability, workmanship & value...& someone will buy that piece of junk because they've heard of Gibson & not Vintage, Guild, Encore, Tanglewood or some other low-price brand who makes guitars of much higher quality than that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spazzyone Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 what makes this the lowest of the low as far as I'm concerned is the Gibson logo on the headstock. What about the made in U.S.A on the back of the headstock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biliousfrog Posted October 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 maybe the neck was?....maybe U.S.A. are the initials of the sweatshop where they're made?...maybe the decal is made in USA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spazzyone Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 That would make it the United Sweatshop Association HA.HA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logical Frank Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 (edited) Well--the made in the U.S.A. and the Gibson logo are just parts of it trying to pass itself off as a genuine Gibson, which is the problem ultimately. I'm not sure how anyone is fooled by these but they are... It seems like I see a post on them every two weeks and half the time it's by someone who's already paid for one. It's also a shame because a lot of times there's someone on the thread who says they were thinking of buying them knowing they were fake and inferior, which pretty much implies that the Gibson logo means more to them than owning a quality guitar and, as was mentioned, is an attitude that really ends up hurting smaller builders who actually make world-class guitars at prices that are reasonable for the high level of quality. Edited October 10, 2006 by Logical Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Ive seen a LOT of these fake Gibsons and a few Ibanez's come through my shop. Most guys either didnt know, or received them as gifts. I make sure they ALL know they got a fake. Most dont care. The fact they own a "Gibson" is more important than the quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al heeley Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Can't he be reported to ebay for promoting counterfeit goods and get him banned for a bit? Trouble is, there's 300 more ready to pop up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logical Frank Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 There's so many of them, I just assumed they were all posted by bots. Anyway, I doubt one of the eBay accounts getting banned is going to be much of deterrent to the people behind the auctioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightLamp Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 (edited) Hey Perry, what's the acutal quality like on them/what are they made of? As a side note, here's the factory's site: http://www.tarpitch.com/ Anyone up for a GIBSUN case? http://www.tarpitch.com/product_info.php?p...b421ffe9ce0755a (you'd think they'd get the spelling right before embossing it on the case...) Edited October 10, 2006 by MidnightLamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 You could spend your money elsewhere and get a better product, but i wont have that Gibson logo will it? Not epiphone quality, but pretty much the same as epiphone was about ten years ago, maybe a little less. The lacquering is great, but the attention to detail is just not there, especially the binding, inlays, paint lines, etc. See the headstock shot here for a binding example: http://www.tarpitch.com/product_info.php?p...ed9d5366e3953af Even the backs of the pickups have gibson logos. They sound like crap, and the fretwork is all over the place. With a little bit more effort, they could REALLY fool some people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightLamp Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 I assumed that the details would not be correct, but if the fretwork is bad, and the guitar wood sucks itself...it defeats the point. I don't know if you all've heard of SX guitars before? I'd hoped they'd be like those ones; really great playing and finished guitars, but with really cheap hardware/pickups/electronics (so it's only a little work to outplay many of their brand name MIA and MIJ guitars). Guess it's just too much to expect of something so cheap and shady looking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biliousfrog Posted October 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 .....complete with Fender strings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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