peterhanson Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 (edited) so i plan on building this for my shop class. I just wanted some feed back. The middle part of the body which is outlined with the body contours will be raised about a quarter of an inch. Edited December 15, 2006 by peterhanson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verhoevenc Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 I like the raised idea. 1/4" may be a little much to maintain comfort, but raising seems cool. Also, i like how you squared off the lower horn.... very "Parker Fly". Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 Yeah, the Parker-esque lower horn is neato. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterhanson Posted December 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 (edited) 1/4" may be a little much to maintain comfort Thanks for the input. seeing as how this is my first build, I need any and all criticism and advice that anyone is willing to give. Edited December 15, 2006 by peterhanson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterhanson Posted December 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Edit: file deleted, see drawings below Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Neat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desopolis Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 if 1/4" is for a smooth transition for like a carve it would be fine, but a edge like that would be a bit much. your fretboard started at 1/4" and it would be about that thick... get a fretboard blank, go to Guitar center, and put it on a body... see how it feels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verhoevenc Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 I'd suggest use a bowl bit for that ledge, so at the bottom it rounds into the next level instead of an abrupt 90 degree. ALSO, I'd radius the top edge of the raised area too, which will be hard with a router bit since the bearing will have no area to ride, I'd get these (I just bought some too): http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=...682&p=32682 Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterhanson Posted December 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 The reasoning behind this build was to kind of model after a gibson firebird, and I hadn't really looked at one in a while and after doing so, i realize that 1/4" is way too much. I think I'll have a little more of a lip on it than a firebird, but certainly not a 1/4". Thanks for all the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 I'd suggest use a bowl bit for that ledge, so at the bottom it rounds into the next level instead of an abrupt 90 degree. ALSO, I'd radius the top edge of the raised area too, which will be hard with a router bit since the bearing will have no area to ride, I'd get these (I just bought some too): http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=...682&p=32682 Chris +1 to that if not a bowl route then maybe a rounded lip... The reasoning behind this build was to kind of model after a gibson firebird, and I hadn't really looked at one in a while and after doing so, i realize that 1/4" is way too much. I think I'll have a little more of a lip on it than a firebird, but certainly not a 1/4". Thanks for all the help. I noticed the firebird esque look I totally dig it. I would go with 3/8 in lift on it so that when you finish all of your planeing and sanding you are left with something high, but not too high. I think that the firebird is about 5/16 raised in the center, I could be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterhanson Posted December 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 I think i have a better hang of Google SketchUP. Here are the results. Hopefully I can start posting real pics soon. I'm almost finished with the guitar neck, so as soon as i get pictures of that I'll start a post in the works in progress forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitefly SA Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 First of all I love the shape and personally I would prefer that over any telecaster any day. It is much more interesting to look at. That said, something with the shape of the pickguard just isn't sitting right with me. I think it should flow more with the lower part of the body but, I don't know how you would do that with the raised section in the middle. I don't know, just my two cents. Great design though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterhanson Posted December 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Now that you mention it, I see what you mean, i'll try an alternate design. Maybe a two piece pickguard would work, I don't know, I'll try some things and see if I like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterhanson Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 (edited) I tried adding a piece to the pickguard, and I didn't like it. I don't think taking away from it would work, so as of now I plan on leaving it as is. If anyone has any ideas in reguards to leaving the pickguard/changing it, i'd love to hear them. Edited December 13, 2006 by peterhanson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desopolis Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I agree it looks a bit off on a tele, but Ive seen some SUPER nice square horns.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterhanson Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 (edited) So I have mixed results from the peanut gallery, I'm liking it. Causing a little friendly controversy on the ole forum. It took a while to get the Negative Nancys out of the woodwork. Thanks again for all the input. If anyone would be able to post pictures or links to a square horn guitar that seems to fit the style, please do so. Edited December 13, 2006 by peterhanson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterhanson Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 IMHO this guitar has been amputated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterhanson Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I got this idea after searching for a square horned guitar on the forum. I'm not sure it fit's the guitar, but I had a similar idea when I initially drew up plans for it.... Soooo, should I keep the stripe, or lose it? Link to thread I kind of got the idea from. http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.ph...0horn&st=15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirapop Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 I agree with Mick, changing just the horn, but retaining the rest of the Tele profile, looks odd. It's like the Tele's on acid, but, it's only just kicked in. Maybe add some corners on the upper shoulder to show that the psychedelics are taking control. The control plate looks a little too Tele and abandoned by the shrinking pickguard. Consider rear routing the controls, having the knobs right on the wood and using a smaller metal plate just for the toggle. Both the pickguard and control plate would look like they were shrinking... I can't remember if that's "eat me" or "drink me" in the Alice in Wonderland story. I'd go for unstriped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Unstriped. I, too, was wondering how the rest of it would look with just a BIIiiiit more squaring off, like in the upper bout. But overall, I still think it's folly to fart around TOO much beyond what you've already done. It's meant to look like a nutzoid tele, and if you change everything around, it's just not going to have its pedigree any more. Gotta keep the control plate. If you can make a custom "squared off" one, though... hmm... Again, don't veer too far from your original design, IMO. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 I have to confess... those are still identifiable as Telecaster-style guitars. Awesome ones. <grin> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterhanson Posted December 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 (edited) Part of the problem I have with the horn is that it doesn't correspond with the rest --which remains curvy. The squared off bit jars somewhat... Also, a lot of my own inspiration for starting to build came from Girl Brand guitars --I like the idea that he maintains the traditional tele shape but goes wild on it within that limit. I understand where you are at with staying in the limits, but personally I wanted to try stepping out of the limits. Seeing as how this is my first build, I'm going have to take GregP's advice and not mess with the original design too much. It'll just make things A. too hard and B. not fun. Thanks again guys. Plus after I get this guitar out of the way, then I'll be able to start something new and different and maybe less out of the box Edited December 14, 2006 by peterhanson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desopolis Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.ph...sting&st=45 favorite square horns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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