skelf Posted January 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 To be honest I have had very little succes trying to cut the cover from the actual back of the body blank. I have tried all the usual methods but not found a way that works for me. I will continue to work at it. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_ado Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 yeah this all ways bugged me to i just made a wood cover for my bass it anit perfect but it sure is better than plastic my question is if u do wat travis says how do u puut it on the body when theres no ledge glue dowl in there i always thought that the good ones u cut a couple of mills of the boack of the body but it seems strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 (edited) Alan, what method have you used? Do you have resaw capabilities? All you have to do is get a body piece about 1/4" thicker and re-saw close to 1/4 out the side you want to use as a back. I did the mistake of glueing the blank one time and I just marked the area were the cover was going to be abd used my router and free handed routed 1/4 out of the back without routing over the cover, thne with a saw just cut the cover out and thichness the blank again. On the last on I', working now, Rich did it for me but the pieces were too thin so I just laminated them. It looks way better thea a blak or not matching cover! Edited January 28, 2007 by Maiden69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skelf Posted January 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 When I have enough wood to play with I resaw and do it the way you suggest. The Maple back is done that way. The limba back I did not have enough wood to do this so I took the cover from in front of the lower horn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 I see what you did! If I was in that situation, Ithink that I would had routed from the front to the back the size of the cavity cover, and then with a scroll sawjust cut the cover out, and using a reverse template I would make a "plug" to glue up that would hold the cover from not going in, Right now I'm working in a similar idea for a bass that I'm drawing for a friend! If I get to do it I will post pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skelf Posted January 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 I am sure that will work and if the bass was one for myself I would be happy to try it. If it went wrong it would be me picking up the tab but if the instrument is an order I don't like to experimenting on them when someone is paying for them. Thanks for your thoughts if you get a chance to take some pics while your are trying out the above I would be interested in seeing them and hearing how you get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 I will!!! It's like setting tabs to hold the cover, just that it will be a full ring around the cavity. Kinda like what Perry did here with his vine, but instead of metal tabs, I'm going to glue a wood ring around it, http://www.ormsbyguitars.com/galleries/vine/images/155.jpg Here is the guitar page http://www.ormsbyguitars.com/galleries/vine/index.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skelf Posted January 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 I don't think I would do a complete ring round the whole cavity you could get away with 3/4 wooden parts glued on to the side of the cavity to take the screws for the cover plate. The wood would look better than the metal fittings. Top notch guitar really nice stain job and finish. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 I thought about 3 or 4 blocks to look like a LP cavity, but I think that the "ring" will be a lot better. And yes Perrys work is great! Especially that "Vine" guitar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_ado Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 so u do glue stuff in there how do u cut out the cavity from the back so fine and do u sue a pilot hole(it would have to be heaps thin) i heard almbic use alaser cutter or somthing??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skelf Posted January 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 You could use a small piolt hole then a jeweller's saw with a fine blade to cut it out. A laser cutter would do the job but I seem to be just a bit short of the several thousand pounds I would need to buy one. donations accepted. Just got this one finished my first Recurve single cut and my first set neck. The spec. Body woods, Alder with an Santos Rosewood top with a 3 mm Tulipwood accent between them. Neck will be a flamed Sycamore and Mahogany 5 piece with a birdseye/fleck maple acrylic impregnated finger board which will have semi-tone markers in Pear wood. Matching Rosewood headplate. The control cover, neck heel accent and backplate are Bubinga. 2 ACG FatBas pickups and the ACG filter pre-amp. Hipshot Type A bridge and Hipshot Ultralites Schaller straplocks. The finish is 60% sheen lacquer on the body with 20% sheen lacquer on the neck. More pics at. http://www.acguitars.co.uk/Gallery/105/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 You know Alan i have just realised how much your work has influenced me. I have just designed a bass for a guy who lives near me and it shares a lot of features with this. We settled on an acrylised birdseye fretboard with light coloured wood fretlines. Ours is gonna have a walnut crotch top but the overall colour combo is very similar to this is very. The only major difference is ours will be a through-neck. The shape is a smoothed out version of my singlecut design and it has ended up looking sorta similar to this! i.e. square lower horn - quite slim compared to the usual singlecut. Mine is less ofset. Oh well i suppose its flattery!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skelf Posted January 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 (edited) Hi Wes You can expect a call from my lawyers first thing tomorrow morning . Everyone has their influence's I really didn't like single cuts until I saw what JP did with them. That got me to see what could be done with the form. Up until then I had only seen things like Fodera single cuts which I really don't like. Edited January 31, 2007 by skelf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 This one looks great, even the alder looks classy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manquesa Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 That is very sweet. I never liked Single Cut basses before either, but lately they've been growing on me, I just may have to come up with my own single cut design one of these days. That level of quality there is what I aspire to achieve eventually. Great work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Any thoughts on how the acrylised maple will hold up to strings. The guy i am doing a fretless for wanted me to do the epoxy coated thing which i didnt fancy - i talked him round to an acrylised B/E maple board so i am hoping it wears well. The thing i notice with singlecuts is that they always look strange on paper. Sometimes you have to just go with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skelf Posted February 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 One of my prototype basses has an acrylic black palm board and has been played a fair bit. The strings don't seem to be doing any damage certainly no more than on an ebony board. I use nickel strings on all my basses which are a bit softer than the stainless this will help I think. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Here is my rough design, The shape isnt that similar i suppose, definately thinking along the same lines though - since you did yours first and i had seen it i have to give you credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skelf Posted February 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Hi Wes As you say thinking along the same lines but different enough to be called yours. Cheers Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIM Basses Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Nice looking Singlecut Wez, its got a FBB Custom bass look to it! I totally understand the strange view of designs on paper Robbie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikbojerik Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Yeah, I like the singlecuts a heck of a lot more when the upper bout starts morphing to almost an upper horn...but not quite. I like that shape! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 lets not take over alan's thread. i will start my own when i have some wood here to take pretty pictures of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skelf Posted February 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Some more work done on the redwood single cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travismoore Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Wow that looks awsome =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slabbefusk Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Neck joint and wood choices in the neck are delicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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