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and heres a better one of what i m trying to do....

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so finaly after a bit of measuring i glued the wings on,,,,, now i used the off cuts of alder to help clamp them into place ,was a bit fiddly lining them up but got it pretty close.....

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and after knocking down the excess on the top and the back i got up to this ruff stage.............

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yep straight black trying to keep it as close to the original ,except fr the string thrus at this stage,

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one question and its probably a complete newb one at that

how did u level the top down after it was glued

no worrys mate this is my first attempt i say attempt becasue have no idea if its gona work or not!!!!

i just used a belt sander with 40 grit to take out the excess ,once it was down a bit i used 80 grit on a block to level it out better,its not 100 percent yet but its gettng there ,alot of sanding to do on this thing!!!!!cheers

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k well few more shots,started shapng the back of the neck a bit better and smoothing it out

looks good ,feels smooth so pretty happy with that

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and heres a shot of starting the carve process,now to be hones i have no idea what im doing here!!! hahahahha sort just guessing it,not sure how they managed to create that shape but i have just done a simialar sort of shape just not as vicous,

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and so here where im up to just got 2 of the shapes finished,took ages to get the shape looking ok with out like straight lines in it just rounded over and smooth ,but pretty happy at the progress,gona look reasonable i think???????????????????

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noo im just doing it from pictures and yes it is hard hahaha well probly not for you guys but havnet really done much work with real wood before ,im really enjoying it ,is there a such job as a guitar builder??? be a coool jo b to have i think very creative ,

can any one tell me how hard it is to wire the pick ups in and what could be an easy way for me to doit.not too sure on the wiring side of things

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I am going to completely disagree with the others...I think you were very smart to cut the wings and shape them before glue up.I always try to do as much of that as I can on a neck through as there is nothing worse than trying to shape the sharp edges of a vee next to the neck while it is attached.I think most of these guys may not realize that,but I have done it both ways,and the best results come from the way you are doing it.especially with the neck being completed.

I think the work looks very nice and you are going about it in a very intelligent manner.obviously you are thinking each step through before you "get after it"

as far as the wiring,you need to plan your wire path and electronics cavity.I find on a neck through the easiest thing is to place the input jack in a straight path bridge pickup-control cavity-input jack so that you can run a long drill bit through the input jack hole and drill the wire path from the cavity to the bridge pickup,if you see what I mean?

Plus another thing you should have done before glue up is to place the wire path from the bridge pickup to the neck pickup by routing a groove into the side of the neck blank at the body portion on the lower bout side of the guitar,if you see what I mean?drilling those holes after the body is glued on a guitar with no pickgaurd is mucho difficult.

I also use the cutoff pieces as clamping blocks as you did.

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wow thanks for that,yes i try to think about each part ,and ive been reading alot on here from what the other members have done so im starting to learn a little bit ,

doh so i should have drilled the wiring holes first????!!!!

hmmm hopefully i can get around it some how,

i want to use a seymour duncan invader and i also have a seymour duncan classic stack single pick up,wil these be ok together???? or should i try use a rail pick up like the one in the picture???

i normal dont play a hell of alot with the neck pick up so may i could leave it out all together????

or am i best to fit one just for extra control over the sound???

also the original guitar has a push pull volume pot to control the pick up selection and volume,

so what about the tone????? would i be best to fit a tone pot as well ?????and is this sort of pot

harder to wire up???? i kinda like the idea of just one control on the guitar keeps it clean looking,

sorry bout the most probably stupid questions ,but i really not sure on this sort of stuff yet,

ive ordered that book some one sujested so hopefully can learn a bit from that,

well i managed to finish of the ruff shaping of the guitar looks pretty good ,still not that happy with it tho,carving wood is another new experience for me so yeah ,

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and now for my first real stuff up!!! feel pretty stupid about this one,

i spent several hours marking out the holes for the tuners and i was sure they were,right

how ever......... :D

i drilled them and they wernt hahaha

well its not that bad its just putting them in a possition that they are usuable is a little tricky due to the shape of the head stock and also trying to keep in mind the strings not touching each other,

so a question can the tuners be fitted any way at all????????or do the y have to go in a certain way??

i mean as long as the string goes thru and isnt touching the other strings does it mater if they are upside down back to front side ways front ways or other?????

im using some grover tuners,but sitting them in the way i drilled doesnt look right,however if i swap the left to right then its not so bad,ill try to show what i mean....

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here is how they were spose to be set ,well how i thought they were spose to be,the 2 bottom ones stick out more than the others ,dosnet effect the turning of them i just dont like the look

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and here i swaped the right to left and left to right and set them on an angle,

which i like a little better,

so does this really mater if there r to l or l to right????????????????

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potentially they could wear out a little faster.

the string will pull on the tuner post and could pull it away from the gear in the tuner - not much, but just enough to make it wear faster.

wehn they are the otherway round the string tension pulls the gears together and they work better.

If you tuners have any play in the post (can you wiggle them without strings on), then they should not really be put on backwards

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i dont know about swappin them but having them at that angle might be a problem......i have my tunners angled toward me so that there easier to tune in relation to the angle that my hand is that..........them facing that way might be a bit of a streach

not really a "problem" but hey comfort right?

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I have made a few dumb mistakes on tuner placement before i settled on my specific headstock shape...you can use the tuners backwards if you have to...but for me it really drove me crazy.

i want to use a seymour duncan invader and i also have a seymour duncan classic stack single pick up,wil these be ok together???? or should i try use a rail pick up like the one in the picture???

mmmm...The Invader is super high output,so you may have a noticeable difference in volume when switching...have you considered hot rails in the neck position?

I hae used the invader before(before i switched to emg)...it is a good pickup,but I prefer the jb...it is still hot enough for anything,but it produces much less background noise and it matches better with neck pickups.

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