Mr. Preston Swift Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 I'm going to be finishing soon and i want to do blue tung oiled body. I'm going to be using a dye and i was wondering how to correctly apply the tung oil over a stain. Should i tint the oil, apply it over the dye or try another method. Any feedback would be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikhailgtrski Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Haven't tried any oil finishes myself, but my understanding is that dye can bleed through the tung oil, especially if you tint the oil. Blue hands after a gig would be no fun. Hopefully an oil finish expert will chime in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick500 Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 I used to use a tung oil based stain from Woodburst, but sadly, they just went out of business... I used it to stain the wood first, then applied several coats of tung oil tinted with the stain. No bleed through problems. Maybe StewMac's ColorTone stain can be added to tung oil... not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Preston Swift Posted October 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 well i have the LMI Aniline Water Soluble Dyes. http://www.lmii.com/CartTwo/thirdproducts....s+Water+Soluble i think they are basically like stewmacs colortone. So if i apply enough coats over it will it not have a chance of bleeding through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick500 Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 I haven't used that particular dye, but it's been my experience with Woodburst stains that they don't bleed through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prauny Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 (edited) I have recently finished a project which i finished in tung-oil. I used a water soluble dye for it too. I had no problems with bleeding at all. I did make the precausion of leaving the body for a few days after dying before applying the tung-oil. Heres a couple of pics for you to see. http://www.metalwap.co.uk/uppy1/pics/pics/DCFC0035.JPG http://www.metalwap.co.uk/uppy1/pics/pics/DSCN1714.JPG And theres a good example of the difference in colour when using a flash and using natural light too.... [Mod edit... your pics were huge; I had to turn them into links.] Edited October 14, 2007 by prauny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick500 Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 It appears by looking at their website, that Woodburst is back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenspoke Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 If you already dyed the body and expect trouble shellac is the universal all finish sealer and will stick to any finish. Make sure it has no wax in it as some do. Comes in a clear or amber. Besides most tung oil is just a Poly with the tung oil name on the label meaning its a wipe on poly with some tung oil in the mix. Real tung oil takes forever to dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Preston Swift Posted January 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 i actually just tried this a few days ago. Tung oil stain on a scrap piece of quilted maple dyed blue. It looked fantastic and was smooth yet glossy. No stain bleeding through the oil (6 or 7 thinnish coats). As far as i can tell it worked good. I used water alaline dyes from LMI and Formby's glossy tung oil which seems to work good over stains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 If you already dyed the body and expect trouble shellac is the universal all finish sealer and will stick to any finish. Make sure it has no wax in it as some do. Comes in a clear or amber. Besides most tung oil is just a Poly with the tung oil name on the label meaning its a wipe on poly with some tung oil in the mix. Real tung oil takes forever to dry. +1 BUT... is you do in fact have real tung oil, be aware that it offers NO protection at all. It will not protect the wood from moisture or abuse. It'll look pretty, but that's it. Check out Flexner's book on wood finishing for more detailed information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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