sb guitars Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Earlier I had posted a topic about "the engagement guitar"-and now i cant find it. Anyways-after too much work, i have finaly come back to the guitar, and i've got an update. I will no longer be using a snakewood fretboard-too expensive and to complicated (design wise). Instead i am not sure which fretboard wood i should get. the update: the neck now will no longer be all mohagany-instead it will me mainly moh-with purple heart and maple. the laminate will consist of 7 pieces moh/purp/maple/purp/maple/purp/moh. the body is moh with a maple top seen below...since the neck is deep set i am torn between showing that its deep set and not. however i would like to make a tobacco burst, so i dont know how the deepset will look with the stain...any thoughts? http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee242/sbmann/970.jpg nevermind the snakewood neck---remember the question are....what kind of fretboard and should i show the deep set neck(route the top (maple) to show the neck on the body......please help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb guitars Posted December 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 since noone wanted to take a stab at it i've decided to bring the tennon to the end of the neck pickup---and the neck is now going to be moh/map/thick purpleheart/map/moh I cut enough for two neck also. the fretboard is also going to be purple heart I'll be making the fretboard myself---any suggestions on a mitre box with precut slots? I saw stewmacs and said eff it i'll make my own---but i will be getting their fret saw with the depth gauge as well. with gold hardware including the frets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyManAndy Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Here is a miter box plan: http://www.scalelength.com/catalog/ CMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdog Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 ---but i will be getting their fret saw with the depth gauge as well. FWIW I bought the fretsaw with the depth stop from StewMac and it does the job. However I read somewhere here that it's not the best option around, it was even mentioned as the only piece of their fretting kit that was not that great. Do a search in the tools forum before buying.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 StewMac, LMII, and Rockler all have the same fret saws, the ones made in Sheffield, England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carousel182 Posted December 25, 2007 Report Share Posted December 25, 2007 i like the stewmac fretsaw, miterbox, and template that i got, its fast and easy to cut fretboards with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb guitars Posted January 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Alright it's been a spell; I haven't beenon lately---had a close call with death-so hence my "break" from building. Update: The neck hasn't been glued in yet. It's a 5 piece moh/maple/purple heart/maple/moh----with purple heart fretboard--I'll be using gold fret wire. The body has been cut out---moh back with a thin crotch maple top(bookmatched)---more pics of the build are coming very soon--I will be doing more buiding this week After I am satisfied with the body progress this week, I will be starting my pickup winder, so if anybody has any winder plans please post em. P.S.---I scored a 7 foot plank of purple heart for 20 bucks from this guy that didn't even know how valuable it was!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb guitars Posted January 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 quick question: should i do some binding? (tobacco burst, gold nd black hardware) any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verhoevenc Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hate to break it to you... I would NOT call purpleheart valuable. Yeah, I think you got a deal... but you also gotta remember, purpleheart used to be used for train box car bottoms cause it's durable... Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb guitars Posted February 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 PLEASE HELPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!! what kind of burst should i do when all hardware is gold with black accents, maple top, and a purpleheart fretboard? i first thought a tobacco burst would fit, but now i'm thinking that it would be too "worn out", I am deffinately doing a burst with dyes, but i am in need of some advice. WHAT KIND OF BURST WOULD FIT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anderekel Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Well, you could do a purple burst, that'd be cool. Or I think green would be cool too, but I love green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb guitars Posted February 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 i want to have a nice range of colours,so a purple burst-although it would be ok-would be too much. green and gold look superb but gren and purple im not too keen on......that's right i said keen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Remember that purpleheart fingerboard may well be brown in a few years time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb guitars Posted February 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Remember that purpleheart fingerboard may well be brown in a few years time.... thanks for the heads up----can i seal in the colour? is there any preventative measures i can take to stop that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 No. Purpleheart will oxidize regardless of what finish you apply to it (any wood will). You can definitely slow down the oxidation process, but you can't stop it by any means. How much Purpleheart oxidizes varies from board to board, you may end up with one that wont darken so much over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 (edited) Remember that purpleheart fingerboard may well be brown in a few years time.... You know Mattia, I have heard that but never seen it. I have some purple heart that I have had for about five years and it is purple as can be. I have seen it brown up after being freshly surfaced or cut, but have never seen it lose its color over time. Have you had a piece brown up over time? Peace,Rich Edited February 4, 2008 by fryovanni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anderekel Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 I've seen it go to a ruby color, but not brown, but I imagine it could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Here are a couple pics I took for you, Rich. These were freshly cut, and extremely purple. The neck is the same board that was incredibly purple as well, it was shaped just 2-3 days ago. Please note that the neck is not fully shaped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) regarding the fretsaws LMI has a japanese saw that is supposed to be very good, i know it was mentioned somewhere else on the board, but FWIW id go with the sheffeild england one,,,and a depth stop is always nice to have EDIT: also about purple heart i was going to make a purple heart acoustic, but i resawed a peice from my billet and it went **** brown. 6 months later and its still pretty brown, so i dont know what im gonna do with it....the outsides still purple as hell though. Edited February 5, 2008 by Kenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Jon, That is pretty dark looking Purple heart. How old do you figure the very dark surfaces are? I have actually never seen Purple heart get quite that dark, but I suppose those bits are pretty intensly colored, and I would expect they would be a great example for how dark it the species could get. I guess the time line on and how dark a piece could get would depend on time and intensity of color in the peice. Knowing that I have pieces that have been raw for 5 years plus(wood in my shop) that are not finished, and have not gone dark purple brown. I suppose the same piece with finish would not become extreamly dark for quite some time (decades??) if it has the potential to become that dark. Kenny, It should purple up (LOL, I guess that is the way to say it). Do you have it exposed to air? or is it stacked on a shelf (it doesn't seem to color up unless it is exposed to air). Peace,Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Remember that purpleheart fingerboard may well be brown in a few years time.... You know Mattia, I have heard that but never seen it. I have some purple heart that I have had for about five years and it is purple as can be. I have seen it brown up after being freshly surfaced or cut, but have never seen it lose its color over time. Have you had a piece brown up over time? Peace,Rich I've never bought any purpleheart, but my local woodyard had a stack of purpleheart that was completely brown; boring, ugly colour, except for a few freshly planed pieces. Then again, they also have a huge, long board of purpleheart up against the wall that's been purple for years (sample piece, they're not selling it) without a finish on it. Seems sort of like Padauk that way, I guess. Don't know if a finish would protect the colour better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Jon, That is pretty dark looking Purple heart. How old do you figure the very dark surfaces are? I have actually never seen Purple heart get quite that dark, but I suppose those bits are pretty intensly colored, and I would expect they would be a great example for how dark it the species could get. Hmm, a little over 2 years now. It is the first and only piece of Purpleheart I have purchased. I bought a gigantic piece for about $16. and this is the very last of it. I have built 3 necks from it overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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