carousel182 Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 What exactly is ktm9 and where can i get it, and read about it? Thats a pretty good idea to for the side dots, I think I'm gonna do something similar but with white plastic dust that ill sand down from pickguard blank scrap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 (edited) What exactly is ktm9 and where can i get it, and read about it? Thats a pretty good idea to for the side dots, I think I'm gonna do something similar but with white plastic dust that ill sand down from pickguard blank scrap. lmii.com sells it in their finishes section. its basically a water based lacquer, its better for the environment, as well as health, and is comparable to nitro. Edited August 9, 2008 by ElysianGuitars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carousel182 Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 ahh okay, I used a waterbased poly before from target coatings. I didn't really get as good of results as i did with acrylic lacquer so I switched back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 ahh okay, I used a waterbased poly before from target coatings. I didn't really get as good of results as i did with acrylic lacquer so I switched back. thus far i feel like i'm getting just as good of results as with nitro, but we'll see when i do the whole guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 http://www.elysian-online.com/YamahaProjec...haProject21.jpg 3 coats of ktm9 on it, i'm gonna sand it down with 320 today and apply a few color coats. theres a couple of runs, but nothing too crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 sprayed the color coat this morning, and now i'm working on building up the KTM9 coats. the neck should be on its final coat in about an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 (edited) http://www.elysian-online.com/YamahaProjec...haProject22.JPG color coat is down, and 1 coat of ktm9 thus far. got about 4 more today, then tomorrow i'm gonna sand it down with 320 and 400 and give it 4 more coats. then its a week cure time, and i'll wet sand and buff it. the RGA7 project is what i'll work on in the downtime, its gonna be lacquered soon i figure. can see a few runs on the backside, still working on my spray technique, ktm9 is a little runny compared to the lacquer and urethane i'm used to. Edited August 10, 2008 by ElysianGuitars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 What did you use for your colour coat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 What did you use for your colour coat? auto paint, polyurethane based, its some hotrod color i bought when i lived in arizona and haven't used until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpcrash Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 just curious - what did you spray it with? Or did I miss that somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 just curious - what did you spray it with? Or did I miss that somewhere? what do you mean? like what kind of spraygun? or what kind of finish? i'm using a Kobalt spraygun(the type with the metal cup, need to get a detail gun soon), and i'm using KTM9 water based finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpcrash Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 exactly - I meant what type of gun. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 exactly - I meant what type of gun. Thanks! http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=prod...&lpage=none thats the exact gun i'm using. like i said though, i need to get a detail gun so i can do bursts in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpcrash Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Thanks! Believe it or not here is one of my favorite detail guns (I still use an IWATA though for airbrushing, some detailing) for doing bursts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Thanks! Believe it or not here is one of my favorite detail guns (I still use an IWATA though for airbrushing, some detailing) for doing bursts. i like the touch up gun stewmac sells on their site, even though its not gravity feed, i used it at roberto-venn, and its magical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 (edited) oh how i love setbacks. the KTM9 didn't bond to my color coat(maybe its not compatible with polyurethane based car paints, or maybe it was because the car paint was over 2 years old, who knows), so when i went to sand it flat, it peeled right off the color coat, so i'm stripping the whole guitar down, and i'll wait till the stewmac finish gets in. pretty much at a standstill on my 2 projects until i get my finishing supplies in now. Edited August 12, 2008 by ElysianGuitars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 this has gone far too long without an update(damn hurricanes causing rain here), here we go further proof you don't need to make the horns look retarded(ala the rusty cooley dean) to have great upper fret access. i recarved that this morning, and i think it looks great. i'm gonna do a little more work on them, i'm thinking of doing a scallop in the cutaways, that'll come later today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 scalloped the cutaways, but blended them to make them look like extended roundover bevels, and carved the back side of the lower horn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 http://www.elysian-online.com/YamahaProjec...haProject28.jpg this ones coming along nicely. i still need to strip down the finish on the neck, but the body is at least going somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 it kind of made me cringe seeing all of the edges shredded like that, but there was great relief when i saw it primered. i think that your clear diddnt stick to your base because you let it dry and diddnt lightly sand before you sprayed clear. most paints are like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 it kind of made me cringe seeing all of the edges shredded like that, but there was great relief when i saw it primered. i think that your clear diddnt stick to your base because you let it dry and diddnt lightly sand before you sprayed clear. most paints are like that. thats not primer, thats the color coat, if the lighting were better you'd see its a pretty brilliant white. of course, the same white used on the RGA. but this one is gonna have a very different look and feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 oh, ok. it just looked a bit flat. but im sure in the light it does look better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 oh, ok. it just looked a bit flat. but im sure in the light it does look better. its getting a bunch of clear coats since i posted that pic, and i'm gonna do 2 more tonight, in fact, i'm going out to do one more right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 also, the stewmac waterbased finish says right on the side of the container that it isn't supposed to go on glossy, if it gets glossy you're spraying too much at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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