riffster Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Hello, Yesterday I drilled the tunomatic post holes for the gotoh bridge with studs and bushings. One post is moderately difficult to remove, while the other is not hard to remove at all, which is weird because I used the same bit that was required. Is that a problem? Second, Do I have to do anything else to install be bridge besides making the post holes and just setting them in there? The installation just seems to easy to me. Do I need to use a light strength glue or wood filler for the posts? Sorry if my questions are stupid, I used the search function because its probably my best friend. I could not find anything else and if there is, sorry about the redundant post. : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87kevin Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Ya - they should be a tight press-fit. You could fill the holes and re-drill, or if it's not too bad, mix up some epoxy, scuff the sides of the bushings and set them in there. Just dont get glue on the threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar2005 Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Yesterday I drilled the tunomatic post holes for the gotoh bridge with studs and bushings. One post is moderately difficult to remove, while the other is not hard to remove at all, which is weird because I used the same bit that was required. Is that a problem? Just put a bit of epoxy in there and you'll be fine. I had the same thing happen to me on my last build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffster Posted August 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Thank you for your help. I will conduct that process as soon as I can work on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 that probably means that one of the studs is slightly smaller. ive had this happen on a few of my bridge studs. you can tell because if you switch them in the holes, the smaller one will still come out easier out of both holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffster Posted August 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Huh, that would be weird, but I will try to see if that is the case. But should the posts be very hard to pull out and if they are, how do I remove them without damaging the guitar and hardware? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Well, how easy is easy? If you turn the guitar upside down, does it fall out by itself? If not, it probably isn't an issue at all. Especially if it's a tuneamatic, since you'll still have the tailpiece applying downward pressure on the whole assembly. I would NOT put epoxy on the insert, since that will make it much more difficult to remove if ever need be. A much easier approach would be to glue a bit of scrap wood (toothpicks, etc) into the side of the hole --that way the insert will press in much more snugly. Removing the inserts is pretty easy, I protect the guitar's surface (cardboard, cloth, whatever) and use a clawhammer with a block of wood as a lever to lift it up (with the stud screwed in a bit). You shouldn't need much pressure at all to lift it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar2005 Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 I would NOT put epoxy on the insert, since that will make it much more difficult to remove if ever need be. A much easier approach would be to glue a bit of scrap wood (toothpicks, etc) into the side of the hole --that way the insert will press in much more snugly. You should never have to remove the inserts and if you do, a bit of heat is all you need to loosen up the epoxy. I suggested epoxy because it will grab onto metal (somewhat) and can fill gaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffster Posted August 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 I just want to let you know that I am not using a tailpiece behind the tunomatic, instead, I am going the string thru body route with ferrules. I figure that will apply enough pressure on the bridge. The post does not wiggle in the hole, it just slides in and out like butter. (Thats what she said). I suppose it would fall out of the hole if I turned it upside down. I feel like leaving it alone, but in another sense I want the loose post to be like the tighter one. Is there an ideal at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 It should be fine as is.Do not epoxy it in...If you MUST use something to make it more snug,titebond is the way to go...I have done it before on a basswood guitar.There is no need for the glue to stick to the insert at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffster Posted August 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Ok. Thanks everybody for contributing. I do understand that there is more than one way to solve a problem. I won't epoxy it. I will leave it as is. Thanks again everybody! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesy Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Ok. Thanks everybody for contributing. I do understand that there is more than one way to solve a problem. I won't epoxy it. I will leave it as is. Thanks again everybody! Just jam a toothpick or two down the outside. You won't need any glue to hold them once it's seated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Just jam a toothpick or two down the outside. You won't need any glue to hold them once it's seated. Yep, that's probably true. The glue is just to make the fix a bit more permanent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffster Posted August 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Well, I have some options to contemplate now... Leave as is, toothpick the hole, or toothpick and epoxy. I probably won't use any epoxy. If anybody else has any recommendations I'll check this thread and listen up. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Well, I have some options to contemplate now... Leave as is, toothpick the hole, or toothpick and epoxy. I probably won't use any epoxy. If anybody else has any recommendations I'll check this thread and listen up. Thanks again. If you do use glue on the toothpick, all you need is ordinary wood glue, not epoxy. It's just to rebuild the wall a bit to make the insert fit snugly. You'd more than likely achieve the same thing with just jamming the toothpick in there without glue. Using the glue would make the fix permanent, that's all. If you wanted to be really precise about it, you could make a shaving of the same wood as the body and glue that in as a lining to the hole. Regardless, the fix will be invisible. Depends on you -- if you're the type who will always be bothered by just the idea that there's a toothpick in there, then go for the more permanent fix. If you were a pro-builder and the guitar was for sale, then you'd be awfully embarrassed if the new owner happened to look under the hood... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesy Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 If you were a pro-builder and the guitar was for sale, then you'd be awfully embarrassed if the new owner happened to look under the hood... Well, I "looked under the hood" of an asian-made archtop the other day, and the neck was shimmed with a piece of binding!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar2005 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 If its already snug, don't use epoxy, go with the glue instead... or a sliver of wood as others sugggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffster Posted August 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Shimmed with binding... Thats crazy! I appreciated all the responses. Now I have a good idea what needs to be done. Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.