Boggs Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Just thought I'd pass on that I am one step closer to having a really good promotional video from a friend of mine in Delaware. He has my Cocobolo topped CamelBack CB-II for evaluation and he offered to do a demo video for me to help me out. Dave Duncan is his name. He's an incredible "feel" player. There sre sounds on this video that I have just never heard from a 6-string guitar before! He wanted to show me an idea for text graphics so he recorded this and sent it to me... We are aware of the low light and the monitor reflection in the finish and there will be a lot more info provided. This is conceptual, but the tone is KILLER! This is the guitar I built that was sent out to demo for Hipshot at NAMM... :-) Cheers!! http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/boggs.com/Cam...-II_Video_1.mp4 Greg "Boggs" Bogoshian www.rockbeachguitars.com www.squirrelsintraffic.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Thank you for locking up my computer with your angelfire crap...you can never have enough viruses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggs Posted March 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Thank you for locking up my computer with your angelfire crap...you can never have enough viruses I have the higher end paid services which are SUPPOSED to be free of popups and the like. I have not had any complaints for years before yours... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Angelfire always has issues(viruses,pop ups,etc...) I myself told you that no more than 2 years ago the last time I clicked on one of your links. go to fullservesite.com...get you a nice site which will be completely free of that crap. Guys like me who run high end music recording software on their main box can't run anti-virus or pop up blockers without severe degradation of the recording capabilities...increased latency,etc...usually that is not an issue as I only go to yahoo,google,amazon,here...etc... Only when I miss the angelfire tag do I get creamed.I usually check before I click,but I ASSUMED you were running on youtube like the last time... ANY complaints are too many.You try to run a pro site...you should ditch angelfire...everyone who is anyone knows that pro sites on angelfire are not really pro sites... Need I mention Litchfield?(also on angelfire) This goes for ANYONE hosting on Angelfire.Most people avoid that host like the plague. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggs Posted March 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 I finally found a youtube link although I am sure the audio is a bit degraded... Seriously... and I am not belittling your complaint, but yours is the only complaint I have had... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 I am not trying to harsh your mellow...but seriously...this is NOT the first time I have told you this. Angelfire sucks,get a new host.Maybe that is why you aren't getting much exposure...I am sure you posted a topic a while back about a lack of exposure? It's like a Myspace business...nobody takes them seriously either. get a dot com...I had westhemann.com a while back on fullservesite...I just used it to host pics..but it was completely clean and devoid of software issues.I would still have it except that I no longer wanted to pay for it...but you say you are paying already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anderekel Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 When I tried to click the angelfire site it wouldn't even come up for me, but my computer tends to automatically block sites that have problems like wes was sayin'. As far as the demo, it sounded fine and everything, but I was kinda hopin' to hear of some of the features of the guitar and why it's so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psw Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 As far as the demo, it sounded fine and everything, but I was kinda hopin' to hear of some of the features of the guitar and why it's so good. Yes...the mood lighting doesn't show off the guitar so much as it does the player... There sre sounds on this video that I have just never heard from a 6-string guitar before! This is what I tuned in to see, but there wasn't anything unusual about it except some tasty playing...I think you need to get out more! Seriously though, it is so dark that you can't see the guitar shape at all or anything "convincing" about this guitar over another which would be the point of such a promo. At the very least some change of pickups selection and some alternate styles might give it the appearance of being more versatile...maybe some chordal playing in different feels and sounds. Popup sites are a curse and people do resent the result of them. I'm tired of myspace and other places that others have started posting here because it just wont load properly, or efficiently and anything that requires me to have to "join" to see is a big no-no. The text looked fine...except that I had to laugh when it specified the pick being used. Perhaps a better text would be one synced to the clip that comes in when features of the guitar are being demonstrated...like the hollow body that is the main feature, or why certain woods were chosen demonstrating the sonic improvement. Possibly for other reasons, the audio sounded "hollow" and while some may see this as a feature, others may think "hmmm, doesn't have the body of an LP, or the character of a strat"...which is not really going to convince people. Comparisons are inevitable and there is a risk of selling the opposition with this kind of approach. otherewise...good production values... pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Only when I miss the angelfire tag do I get creamed. The only time? .......... surprising with a body like yours I like the vid, nice tone, I agree with the comment that a bit of work to bring the guitar up in contrast would be good, you might even just be able to process the existing one in an editor to adjust the brightness and contrast. I am usually into more overdriven guitar sounds, but I loved the tone on that guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 surprising with a body like yours I know not everybody...has a body like miiine.... gotta have faith-a-faith-a-faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggs Posted March 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 When I tried to click the angelfire site it wouldn't even come up for me, but my computer tends to automatically block sites that have problems like wes was sayin'. As far as the demo, it sounded fine and everything, but I was kinda hopin' to hear of some of the features of the guitar and why it's so good. That is coming. This is the basic concept (and the first time I have heard the guitar through an amp)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggs Posted March 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Good comments all. I also recommended a lighter shirt for showing the guitar body shape better. The features will be demonstrated in the final product. This is just a concept sample he sent. It was noted that it doesn't really look or sound like a Strat or a Les Paul. There are already bazillions of guitars that do. Why should I make another? I like that it has its own character. That is what I was shooting for. I see posts all the time from players that feel those are uncomfortable to play... I designed this ergonomically to be comfortable to play sitting, standing, or kneeling... The player has been notified as to how to demo this... Strats and Les Pauls are great instruments. They aren't the ONLY instruments though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psw Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 It was noted that it doesn't really look or sound like a Strat or a Les Paul. There are already bazillions of guitars that do. Why should I make another? No...that wasn't the point I was making...it has p-90-alikes on it that could just as much account for the different tone. I had a processed sound and what sounded like room echo. I was just commenting from a sales position, that these are comparisons and what they may hear without variation is what the guitar lacks in comparison, not it's features. It was really a response to this claim... There sre sounds on this video that I have just never heard from a 6-string guitar before! ...which is a risky sales pitch if it doesn't deliver! The ergonomics are almost entirely in the light weight which is admirable, it's lack of countouring and thickness of the body undermine some of this. These features have been offered before in the market place such as in Fenders Robben Ford model (designed to sound like a smaller 335) and many others, this is what fender tried... A more convincing demo video and explanation is this from which you have largely drawn inspiration I'd suggest (and which I don't hear a lot of reference to)... Here's some specs...link...retailing at $719. The rear cutout on yours looks a lot like a reversal of the carvin and the internals less "designed" perhaps by comparison, this model of yours looks better than previous designs on the concept but with a stock fender neck, you are only inviting comparison with fender. Carvin's headstock is a custom design and a 20" radius board. I would expect that the guitar may well have superior articulation and note separation (compared perhaps to an LP), and that this might be heard better with some chordal work. I guess the real testimony if it's features and unique sounds were compared with fenders and gibsons and like guitars to better prove the "concepts". Price and comparison with the carvin should probably be given too as this appears to be the real competition in your commercial venture and that so many features that you promote were developed in this instrument (note dual rear strap buttons previously mentioned as a unique feature). pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggs Posted March 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 "No...that wasn't the point I was making...it has p-90-alikes on it that could just as much account for the different tone. I had a processed sound and what sounded like room echo. I was just commenting from a sales position, that these are comparisons and what they may hear without variation is what the guitar lacks in comparison, not it's features. It was really a response to this claim... There sre sounds on this video that I have just never heard from a 6-string guitar before! ...which is a risky sales pitch if it doesn't deliver!" Keeping in mind that this was only one setting and one pickup being used for this quick sample and not the full-blown demo coming, I heard things on the lower strings that were very unique in that he had a right-hand technique that almost made it sound like he infused slap-bass into it. I hadn't really heard that from another guitar before. A good part of it was his playing technique, but it helped very significantly that the guitar could bring that out. It is apparently VERY responsive. I have a goncalo alves topped and backed Cicada that responds like that to the right hand. Very special... "The ergonomics are almost entirely in the light weight which is admirable, it's lack of countouring and thickness of the body undermine some of this. These features have been offered before in the market place such as in Fenders Robben Ford model (designed to sound like a smaller 335) and many others, this is what fender tried..." You can't really say this without having played it. The body is smaller than other guitars that really require the contouring. It was smaller than Dave had imagined and as he put it (although not in the video you saw), there wasn't a place on it where his hands didn't feel like they belonged. It was very comfortable playing either sitting or standing. Classical seating position as many jazz players like is perfect in how the guitar bottom rests between the legs and the neck is at the right position even when the hands are taken off of it when using a right-angle cable... The body is not as thick as a Strat or a LP so contouring is not really required. It also is not a featherweight. It still feels substantial (and balances perfectly) despite the generous chambering because of the density of the old growth woods used. "A more convincing demo video and explanation is this from which you have largely drawn inspiration I'd suggest (and which I don't hear a lot of reference to)..." This was a short concept piece he did for me. He has all of the information now he needs to do the full-up demo showing the various features, use different pickup combinations, different amp settings, etc. This was just a sample. All will be presented in the full demo. "Here's some specs...link...retailing at $719. The rear cutout on yours looks a lot like a reversal of the carvin and the internals less "designed" perhaps by comparison, this model of yours looks better than previous designs on the concept but with a stock fender neck, you are only inviting comparison with fender. Carvin's headstock is a custom design and a 20" radius board." This guitar (which really is the engineering model as it is a brand new model from me" will remind you of the Holdsworth Fatboy as that was its inspiration, but it is entirely different in construction. Doing the cutaway in the opposite direction has MANY advantages as you will see when the other full demo is completed. It was done for multiple functions that the Fatboy cannot do quite as well. I love the Fatboy, by the way... It was completed in its current state with the standard Strat headstock the day before I had to ship it to Hipshot to take to NAMM so I did not have time to re-shape it to my current configuration which I developed (and pictured in another thread) from this. It will be done when I get it back. I still haven't even played it yet as it has been on the road ever since. You can also get my guitars with whatever neck configuration you want. I have done custom headstock designs for customers, too. You cannot get that from Carvin (who I respect a GREAT deal). I can even take the neck off the guitar you see and replace it with what you want. You are not locked in. I am getting away from the stock Fender headstocks though. I just didn't have time to do it on this due to delivery date requirements. I understand what you are saying though. I also do appreciate the time you took to give me so much good feedback! Thanks, Pete! Cheers! Boggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 A good part of it was his playing technique, but it helped very significantly that the guitar could bring that out. It is apparently VERY responsive. I have a goncalo alves topped and backed Cicada that responds like that to the right hand. Very special... No...nothing special about the guitar in that way...I have a Sabre of mahogany that is just just like that...as well as an alder strat I used to have.... Acoustic players use that style very often...it is using the guitar for percussion as well as melody... But I can tell you are bull headed about this and will listen to nothing that is not what you want to hear...same old same old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggs Posted March 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Gee, I sure am glad you are not actually trying to harsh my mellow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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