Perry, i totally understand what you were saying, i was just trying to counterpoint that him being 'unconfident about his ability' may not have been the major reason for his question knowing what the states is like. I work, and have done for 20 years, as a buyer and technical manager for the biggest aluminium wheel wholesalers in Europe with a turnover well in excess of €280,000,000 and we won't even send a wheel nut to the states because of the public liability laws over there. Anyway, as i said in my first post, i may have got this all wrong and your assumption may be the correct one.