krazyderek Posted September 6, 2004 Report Posted September 6, 2004 I had a 1/4" straight cutter that was nearing the end of it's life, so i wasn't really being carefull with it and just wanted to see if i could do a pickup route in 2 passes. i set it to roughly 13mm (1/2") after i had predrilled most of it, and let looose. About 3/4 of the ways around the perimeter of the route i just felt things get "easier" then it dawned on me, so i stoped the router and looked, sure enough the bit had snapped clear in half. Just goes to show that you should be carefull when routing, especially with very small bits, had this been a brand new bit i would be royaly *non-impressed*. high res pic 1 high res pic 2 Quote
soapbarstrat Posted September 6, 2004 Report Posted September 6, 2004 Looks like at some point the shaft had been spinning around in the collet. Quote
krazyderek Posted September 6, 2004 Author Report Posted September 6, 2004 the shaft and the bit are both 1/4" and i had used it to do some deep routes before, just some burn marks from the shaft touching the edge of the wood. Quote
truerussian558 Posted September 6, 2004 Report Posted September 6, 2004 just curious, how would one go about determining if a bit is nearing the end of its life? Quote
soapbarstrat Posted September 6, 2004 Report Posted September 6, 2004 just curious, how would one go about determining if a bit is nearing the end of its life? It gets lazy about cutting, and takes up smoking Quote
krazyderek Posted September 6, 2004 Author Report Posted September 6, 2004 hehe, well this wasn't the highest quality bit to start with, so the tip of the cutter has chipped away. The major thing was that it was getting fairly dull from all the hardwood routing. All the wear on the protective (in this case yellow) paint can sometimes be an indicator aswell. Quote
Guitarfrenzy Posted September 6, 2004 Report Posted September 6, 2004 You can tell when a bit is almost no good. When it used to cut wood like butter, but now it feels like your trying to cut stainless steel.. lol They just get dull and start burning the wood instead of cutting it. Quote
Lex Luthier Posted September 6, 2004 Report Posted September 6, 2004 WOW! I once shattered the carbide cutters of a bit routing a pickup in Ash, but I've never had one break in half. When I had my bit shatter, the carbide cutter fragments blasted right through the brass template guide, blowing out the side of it! Quote
truerussian558 Posted September 7, 2004 Report Posted September 7, 2004 id be thankfull it wasnt your eye Quote
bigdguitars Posted September 7, 2004 Report Posted September 7, 2004 when routing always always wear safety glasses.... Imagine that burning a hole in your eye... Quote
Dr. Jabsco Posted September 7, 2004 Report Posted September 7, 2004 If a brass plate wont stop it, I doubt some plastic goggles will! :-p but its still good for wood chips. I just wish router bits werent so damned expensive. Quote
Lex Luthier Posted September 7, 2004 Report Posted September 7, 2004 when routing always always wear safety glasses.... Imagine that burning a hole in your eye... UMMMMM...DUH!!!! I wear safety glasses when using any machinery, usually earmuffs too. Bandsaw-Glasses/Earmuffs Drillpress-Glasses Edgesander-Glasses/Earmuffs Spindlesander-Glasses Routers-Glasses/Earmuffs Palmsanders-Glasses/Earmuffs I don't wear any safety gear with handdrills unless I'm drilling metal. Quote
truerussian558 Posted September 7, 2004 Report Posted September 7, 2004 (edited) well obviously wear safety stuffs (i pity the fool that does it unprotected). but i was saying it as a side note, id be thankfull it wasnt my eye when if that happened to me becuase as dr. jabsco pointed out, if a a brass plate didnt stop it, i wouldnth think a bit of plastic (or worse your skin) wold stop it. also i got earmuffs for my router since i got annoyed with that ringing that followed me for like 30 minutes folllowing usig the rouiter. Edited September 7, 2004 by truerussian558 Quote
Dr. Jabsco Posted September 7, 2004 Report Posted September 7, 2004 I also wear gloves with everything excpt the band saw (wouldnt want it to get caught up in there) I sanded a knuckle once, and learned my lesson. It took 2 months to heal Quote
bigdguitars Posted September 7, 2004 Report Posted September 7, 2004 I think I was posting more towards the newbs... Quote
Lex Luthier Posted September 7, 2004 Report Posted September 7, 2004 I also wear gloves with everything excpt the band saw (wouldnt want it to get caught up in there) I sanded a knuckle once, and learned my lesson. It took 2 months to heal That can actually be a bad thing. The glove can get caught, and suck your hand into the tool, and not just on the bandsaw - drillpress, belt/disc/spindle sanders, tablesaw. Really any tool could catch the glove. I've sanded knucles off, and bits of finger tips too. Whats really nasty is doing it on a fresh 60grit belt! Quote
krazyderek Posted September 7, 2004 Author Report Posted September 7, 2004 I also wear gloves with everything excpt the band saw (wouldnt want it to get caught up in there) I sanded a knuckle once, and learned my lesson. It took 2 months to heal i'm not a big supporter of gloves, i'd just try and keep my hand away from the moving sanpaper next time lukly my bit only broke and fell into one of my predrilling holes, no shattering, not even a dent into my rout... additionaly, if your router doesn't have a built in dust collection port, (like my chicago electric) then you should be wearing a resperator mask going'a router bit shopping tomorow!!!!!!! Quote
soapbarstrat Posted September 7, 2004 Report Posted September 7, 2004 I've used my 3/4" carbide tip bit from harbor freight for about 10 years and I think it's still plenty sharp. But I baby the router and bits compared to how others use them. I don't make the bit take anymore than 1/16" per pass. Often less than that. Yes, it takes longer, but the equipment seems to last much longer and I feel I'm less at risk to get hurt (I once had a table saw repeatedly throw wood into my face like it was possessed). I think the way I do it also helps keep the wood from getting damaged. With power tools, I like to use them as if I'm driving a Cadillac with a V8 engine only 25mph through a residential neighborhood. When I was much younger I would work the tools pretty hard, like towing a huge boat with an old VW beetle on the freeway at 80mph. Quote
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