oldcrowbar Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 this may be a dumb question - but is there any significant difference between stains and dyes (benefits/drawbacks) ? if so what are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannoG Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Stains add material to the top of the wood, which can cover up grain (either good or bad). Dyes soak into the wood, letting the grain show through (again for good or bad). I like dyes better. They also are often available in a wider range of colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcrowbar Posted December 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 great !! thx for the reply that being said, which to do you think then would be a "better" choice to do like a "tiger-eye" effect on a figured maple piece.. the dyes i've tried seem to go on "light" and i've had rub them in a couple of time to get a good color... dunno if maybe i just need to change the concentration of the dye.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Stains add material to the top of the wood, which can cover up grain (either good or bad). Dyes soak into the wood, letting the grain show through (again for good or bad). I like dyes better. They also are often available in a wider range of colors. I'm under the impression that stains and dyes act the same in wood, as a matter of fact a stain is a dye. For the Tyger eye, there are a few things to do, I bet you are using regular wood stain! Try to get a hand on this ones the are far better than regular stains. And to bring the figure of the wood, try the stain black sand back technique. It has been talked over here zillion times so just do a search. you can also rubb the stain in and wipe a lot of times and you can get the same effect like Myka and Perry had done, but I think that you have to be realy good to do it this way. What ever you do is up to you, good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanKirk Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 I've had issues myself regarding what's a stain and what's a dye. I've read info that deals with each as separate items as DannoG stated and info that refers to the same item as stain and dye in the same article such as the link to the stew-mac site. Hard to get the low-down on what's what but my impression is that stains & dyes are two different things and react differently with wood grain but I'm no expert. I'm anxious to see what the experienced people around here have to say on this topic. As for the dyes needing several coats to get the desired tint, I've seen people post here (Drak was one if I remember right) that it's usually neccessary to use the highest recommended concentration suggested to achieve the best color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 I have used the dyes Maiden69 refered to and they work great. I am also using these from LMI dyes. They are both Metal Acid dyes as I understand it. I am not an expert, but they work great on figured wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanKirk Posted December 24, 2004 Report Share Posted December 24, 2004 this may be a dumb question - but is there any significant difference between stains and dyes (benefits/drawbacks) ? if so what are they? Thought I'd bump this. I'm still wondering about the differences myself (if any). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 24, 2004 Report Share Posted December 24, 2004 there is a book http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/076...9555924-9334429 at under $12 it may be the best money you ever spend.it discusses stain vs dye plus MANY other subjects and will completely destroy alot of myths that get passed around the internet...the best thing is that the guy writes it with no biases whatsoever about any method of finishing(brushing,spraying,etc..) drak reccomended it to me(and everyone else on this forum many times)but apparently nobody takes good advice around here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www Posted December 24, 2004 Report Share Posted December 24, 2004 This is a vague answer: Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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