Cyclone Posted February 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 For those that might have been keeping up with my progress, sorry that I have not posted any new updates, but I have a few pics to post on my current progress. The first is a pic of the body with the back "bookmatched" flame maple glued and trimmed. The next pic is of the "bookmatched" top that will be going on. The third is of the neck. It consists of two strips of mahogany on the outside and one strip of flame maple in the center. After it is dry I will cut a 13 degree angle on one end for the head stock to be glued into place. This weekend I will be cutting the strips for the head stock in addition to making the plank for the finger board. When I am done with them I will post more pics. Everyone please feel free to comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushy the shroom Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Freakin' Beautiful. I'm going to love to see thing when it's done. What are you considering for a finish (sorry- if this has been answered, I don't have time to check the rest of the thread)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertonessuckbutigotone Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 as to the thought of it being a strat based guitar, I disagree. 1. its got a fatter ass than a strat 2. its a CARVETOP 3. its going to be a hardtail bridge 4. its going to have a flame maple top The ONLY thing that I see that resembles a strat so far is the double cutaway. Thats like saying http://www.surfcityinstruments.com/images/bolsachicablk.jpg that is a tele knockoff because its a single cutaway (okay, not THAT extreme but... ). To me it looks more like a PRS than any strat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Freakin' Beautiful. I'm going to love to see thing when it's done. What are you considering for a finish (sorry- if this has been answered, I don't have time to check the rest of the thread)? ← For a finish it will be stained in a burst. I plan to use two minwax colors "butter pecan" for the inner color darkening to "serdona red" with a polyurathane clear coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannoG Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Nice looking wood. Might I suggest a little more clamping than is shown in your photos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzocchi705 Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 one of the hipshot hardtail bridges prehaps, http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailp...ail_Bridge.html ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_diemos Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Actually, I think that this design is starting to look alot like an Ibanez SZ. http://ibanez.com/guitars/guitar.asp?model=SZ720FM Just not quite so long of horns. Regardless, that thing will definately put out some tone. I was just wondering, what are you gonna use for the fingerboard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 tone. I was just wondering, what are you gonna use for the fingerboard? ← For a finger board I will be using flame maple from the same board that the back and front came from. For the bridge I think that I have narrowed it down to either the Gotoh 510, the Hipshot Baby grand, or Schaller 456. If anyone has used any of these bridges please give me your thoughts as all I have ever used are the Floyd Rose tremlos and gibson fixed bridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill-Murray Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Yeah, it does look alot like http://ibanez.com/guitars/guitar.asp?model=SZ720FM I also don't see what's so special about it. I wouldn't compare it to a strat. It's a LP DC and a PRS combined. That's it. I don't want to be mean, but like idtch, I don't think theres a fortune to be made or anything. Nice design, but don't get carried away man. I like how you are having a bookmatched back too, and fretboard. Man that's gonna be a puppy. How are you gonna do the binding?? And neck angle?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Yeah, it does look alot like http://ibanez.com/guitars/guitar.asp?model=SZ720FM I also don't see what's so special about it. I wouldn't compare it to a strat. It's a LP DC and a PRS combined. That's it. I don't want to be mean, but like idtch, I don't think theres a fortune to be made or anything. Nice design, but don't get carried away man. I like how you are having a bookmatched back too, and fretboard. Man that's gonna be a puppy. How are you gonna do the binding?? And neck angle?? ← Please dont take this the wrong way, I did not post my progress or choose to share what I am creating to have the business aspect of it judged or criticized. By all means if there is something that anyone has a question or comment regarding the progress, assembly, or method of maufacture on my project please feel free to ask or give constructive criticism. I will be more than happy to respond. As far as it being special, its special to me and that is what matters the most. The only thing that could be more special about this guitar is to see it being played by my son in years to come as it is the first one that I build from scratch and with in the next couple of weeks he will be my first born. I know that thats kind of sappy but its how I feel. With regard to its design, as I have posted earlier, the design comes from aspects of my favorite guitars (Les Paul, Soloist style strat, and PRS) that appeal to me the most. The influences are definitely present. What I didnt do was an exact copy of what is already out there and lets face it there is only so much that can be done with a piece of wood. I hope that I havent come across as benig rude as that was not my intention. I just want everyone to keep what is important in perspective and that is all of us here sharing our hart soul and craft. And now I am getting off of my soap box. For the binding, it will be 1/8" natural on the body both top and back. The neck angle will be 1 degree and the tinon will extend through the body to the bridge. I havent decided on weather or not I will be binding the neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Looks like a nice start. The Maple ought to look pretty nice. I like the look of the body it is classy ( or classic?). I think you hit the target on what your design intent was. Taking the lines of a few other double cuts and blending them (very)cleanly. I think the comments about the registered design thing are probably a frustrated reaction trademark issues that can be almost silly sometimes. The design is cool and a lot of people who love the same design aspects of those guitars have come up with very similar bodys. It is kinda like a shot in the gut to impose more limits on fredom of creativity in building. Kinda like if someone told you that the deep set tenion is patented and you could not use it (which may even be the case for all I know). The guitar is looking great. Your work looks very clean. I hope your kidd-o plays it for 30 years and teaches their kidd-o's how to play with it ( that would be too cool). I look forward to more progress shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CudBucket Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Looks great! You put maple on the back. Interesting. Is the front getting a maple cap too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill-Murray Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Sounds pretty cool, I didn't mean to come off as harsh or anything. And you don't have to worry about offending me, I'm a moron. Good luck man, good luck with your son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Looks great! You put maple on the back. Interesting. Is the front getting a maple cap too? ← Cud, Yes the top will be getting a flame maple cap as well. I am going for that classic Jazz guitar look in a thinline solid body electric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Here is another update on my progress. The first picture is of the completed neck blank. It has a 13 degree angle and as soon as I recieve my parts from warmoth I will be cutting the slot for the double expanding truss rod. The next picture is of the finger board blank. I will be making a fret jig this week or week end to use in locating the frets. I have not decided on weather or not I will be inlaying it as of yet although it will have side markers. The final picture os of the headstock design glued to the bookmatched top of the headstock. I know what everyone is going to say, "It looks like a PRS headstock". Thats because it is the style of headstock that I wanted. If any one has any questions or comments please feel free to reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill-Murray Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 That's alot of flamed maple, how much you spending on this?? It's gonna be absolutely killer though, I hope you can pull it off. Real classy, bookmatched back will be great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzocchi705 Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Im in the prosess of making my neck, well i have the blank, how did you cut the scarf joint, did you use a miter jig? Sorry if it sounds stupid, ive just been anoying my self not being able to think of a answer myself, its probibly realy simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 That's alot of flamed maple, how much you spending on this?? It's gonna be absolutely killer though, I hope you can pull it off. Real classy, bookmatched back will be great! ← Bill, I bought two pieces of wood for $58.00 US. (see the first pictures in my very first post). From those two pieces I have made everything thus far. Thanks for the complements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Im in the prosess of making my neck, well i have the blank, how did you cut the scarf joint, did you use a miter jig? Sorry if it sounds stupid, ive just been anoying my self not being able to think of a answer myself, its probibly realy simple. ← To cut the scarf joint I had to get a little creative. I drew out two 13 degree angles on autocad and glued one to each side of the neck. I then clamped two guides along the outline of the angle with the neck sandwiched inbetween. I then took a pull saw and ran it along the guides to follow the line. Once the scrap was removed I took a sanding block with 80 grit and cleaned it up. At this point I said to myself there has to be a better way of doing this so for the headstock I printed the two angles again glued them to either side of the head stock and cut along the line using my band saw. This was much quicker and the clean-up didnt take as long as I thought. I hope this answers your question and also helps. Good luck with your neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer7440 Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Here is a link to a cool jig for cutting scarf joints on a table saw. scarf joint jig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 (edited) Last night I was able to glue the headstock bookmatched laminate on and to day I was able to shape the headstock and thickness the rest of the neck. Here is a picture of the simi-finished product. Please feel free to comment. For some reason my picture isnt uploading right. I will try again later. Sorry for the delay. Ok here is the picture. Edited February 11, 2005 by Cyclone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushy the shroom Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 For a finish it will be stained in a burst. I plan to use two minwax colors "butter pecan" for the inner color darkening to "serdona red" with a polyurathane clear coat. Sounds real classic.. should look great! Talk to Drak about this, but you may want to stain black first, to highlight the grain. I'm no expert, but I think it makes a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 For a finish it will be stained in a burst. I plan to use two minwax colors "butter pecan" for the inner color darkening to "serdona red" with a polyurathane clear coat. Sounds real classic.. should look great! Talk to Drak about this, but you may want to stain black first, to highlight the grain. I'm no expert, but I think it makes a difference. ← Mushy, Thanks for the complements. I should be experimenting with the staining within the next couple of weeks. I will then post some picts. for review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Here is a pic of the finger board that I will be using. I slotted it earlier this weekend. I am still waiting to recieve my truss rod and fret wire from Warmoth. Im getting a little eager. If I would have gotten them earlier, like say this past friday I probably would be finished with the neck and have it glued in place with the maple top glued on. Oh well it should be here by tomorrow after noon. After I get the rod in place and the fret board glued on I will add another pic. Thanks every one for viewing and commenting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parker_Fly Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 looking good man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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