Guest AlexVDL Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 here´s a pic of the "faux" neck joint, it looks like a regular joint Hahaha that is absolutely wonderfull!! Excellent... you could have fooled everyone if you hadn't said it was a neck thru. This guitar like the LP you built is another piece of master craftmanship!! My compliments.. love the finish too!! Poly rules hehehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertop Posted January 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 AlexVDL: Thanks for your words, actually I have fooled some people with that fake neck joint jajaja I also think that poly rules, but for a change I´m painting a Tele like guitar with nitro, I hope it comes OK. And glad you also like the LP, I also love that guitar. Godin SD: I use the mahogany grain filler Stewmac sells, and a mix between cherry red and mahogany(very little) for the color. First I sealed de the wood and filled the grain and then i put the color, Here´s where my friend that has a lot of experience come to rescue, he mixed the colors and I´m pretty sure I could have not doing it on my own. He´s truly a master and I own him a lot.(sorry my english ) Maiden69(francisco): de dónde eres? you seems like latino o spanish. Thanks everybody, now I´ll go to play more guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Puerto Rico, but have been in the states since '98. Righ now I'm in Maryland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Very sexy guitar and beautiful finish, I love SG's man Good work !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 venezuelan here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Great work there. Definately enter it into GOTM. As I did I was not sure if it would be a good idea but I even won the first place. I especially like the finish and the perfect binding work. Only thing which I really don't like is that you did not correct Gibson's original design flaw: WHY would anyone place the strap button on the neck on a guitar that would have fabolous upper fret acces otherwise???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Some More Nice Words! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertop Posted January 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 GuitarMaestro: Hi Marcel, I didn´t think of that to be honest with you, it doesn´t bother me but I guess if it ever will I can relocate the strap button. BTW I thought that the neck joint was the original design flaw: when they put the pickup cavity the joint becomes really thin and weak. And thanks for the comments, I don´t really know how to apply to guitar of the month really, I thought that the webmaster picked the GOTM. Drak: you caught me! I always watch the MIMF looking for help as well as this site, they both are awesome and they´re great help for a newbie. Maybe the MIMf is a little harsh at the beginning but there is a lot of cool people. Eddiewarlock: I´m peruvian and here there isn´t any place to get good hardware, so be patient and try to do your best with the things you have, good luck. Maiden69: que bueno ver latinos por acá, creo que no hay muchos no? And thanks Metal matt hope to see any guitar from you soon, Alberto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Hay unos cuantos, not that many... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inward X Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 that has to be the most beautiful thing ive ever seen, it brings tears to my eyes great job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68 lost souls Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Jaw dropping. I love Sgs and thats one of the nicest ive ever seen. Ive got one small problome I dont like the rosewood headstock but thats just a bit of personal taste. Les Paul would be proud of that SG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill-Murray Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 (edited) Yeah, badass finish dude. How many coats of clear did you put on?? Is it lacquered?? Sorry I'm a major finish newb. I'm gonna do a neck thru sg soon too, only white with 2 p90's. Any advice while you were doing that, and how'd you get those bevels on the horns so nice?? Oh yeah, and what kinda neck angle did you put on that sucker?? Edited January 18, 2005 by Bill-Murray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertop Posted January 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 I´m glad you like it guys; I´m very proud of this guitar. Bill-Murray:it has around 9 coats of clear polyester. White with p90´s? sounds awesome!. I gladly will give you any advice you want, to me it would be easier if you ask something. Like the bevels, I did it without any machine, I use a square, a spokeshave and a scraper. I draw on the wood the inside border and the started to take out the wood with the spokeshave very carefully. Then with the square I checked the beveled surface because I needed a flat surface. With a wood block I sanded it till it was fine and then proceeded to paint it. And that´s it, it was fairly easy, just go slow and always check your surface. Oh, I just saw that you asked about the bevels on the horns Well I use a chisel and verified them with the scarper. Well, there you go, I hope this can help you. If you need anything else I gladly help you. Best regards. My native tongue isn´t english and that´s why I have a few posts only, so I hope I explained ok, if I didn´t well just ask again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertonessuckbutigotone Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 the way to enter in gutiar of the month, you go to the "announcements and test area" and up at the top the thread "guitar of the month for january" then just post your giutar in there with 3 pictures and a little story about the guitar and then towards the end of the month (jan. 23) he will let us vote on who should win guitar of the month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill-Murray Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 That's cool man. But did you put any neck angle?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertop Posted January 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Thanks for the info silvertonessuckbutigotone, I ´ll post my guitar there then. Bill-Murray: yes, I put a neck angle because I didn´t wanna recess the bridge. I use a 2- 2,5 angle degree, I know that´s the neck angle Gibson uses on their Sg´s. What I did was draw the neck angle on the sides of the neck/body wood and then I glued the body wings following that angle. I choose to angle the wings because to me it was easier to use the top of the wings as a reference to get flat both the top and bottom. I flatten the surface with a plane and then sanded to get everything right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill-Murray Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Oh thanks, cause that's the part I'm worried about. The angle doesn't have to be exact then, I guess?? Just 2-2.5. Sounds good. How thick is it, and did you lose much thickness when you planed it to get it flat after you glued the wings??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsilver Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 What I did was draw the neck angle on the sides of the neck/body wood and then I glued the body wings following that angle. I choose to angle the wings because to me it was easier to use the top of the wings as a reference to get flat both the top and bottom. I flatten the surface with a plane and then sanded to get everything right. ← Alberto, that is a beautiful guitar. Guess I'll avoid showing my SG project for some time until everyone forgets yours LOL Thanks for describing the method to angle the neck on a neckthrough. That will definitely help me. I read earlier that you filled the grain and sealed the wood. How did you get the color? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill-Murray Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Okay, but when you glue the body wings, isn't there like a thickness difference in the neck/body and the wings?? You have to plane down then I guess that's what you were talking about?? I realize 2 1/2 degrees isn't much, but it is still something I'm worried about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertop Posted January 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Bill-Murray: the wings where already in the proper thickness (1 5/16") and the neck/body wood was thick enough to allow me to draw the diagonal of the angle and to put the body wings diagonally and still have room to plane it. Hope this explain the process. If you are going to use a tuneomatic you definetily need a neck angle. Here are some measures that I took from a Gibson ad I found in everythingsg.com, the measures can vary here and there: Body: length-16", width-12 3/4"-13 5/32", depth-1 5/16" body/neck angle: sg special 2° sg standard 3° sg reissue 3,5° neck: peghead pitch: 14-17° length: 6 25/32" w:3 1/16" thickness 1st fret: 0.818 12th: 0.963 heel length: 0.625" peghead: thickness-5/8" peghead veneer: 3/8" You can get other measures in the Gibson webpage. Johnsilver: thanks for the compliment, I did the painting with a friend, he´s awesome and he uses the Stewmac color; I think it was cherry red and mahogany. You need to experiment a bit to get the color you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill-Murray Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Oh, so you just had the neck plenty thick?? That's cool, it makes sense. I'll check out their site for more measurements, you do sweet work man. Rock on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsilver Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 I did the painting with a friend, he´s awesome and he uses the Stewmac color; I think it was cherry red and mahogany. You need to experiment a bit to get the color you want. ← Alberto, thanks for the reference. Do you know if the guitar was dyed (the color applied directly to the wood) or was the color added to the clear finish and then applied? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertop Posted January 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 I would say it was applied after the wood was sealed. When you see the guitar you notice that the bottom (where the strap button is, near the bridge) is not darker than the actual top of the guitar. I mean it´s a bit darker but is different like when I apply stain directly on wood, then you can see that some parts are deffinetly darker than others. When you don´t seal the wood and then you stain it, the parts perpendicular to the wood grain (where the grain cuts and is like little pores) absorbs more stain. I hope you can understand me, I´m having some problem trying to explain it right. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsilver Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Alberto, thanks. I understand what you mean. End grain absorbs stain more quickly than surface grain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill-Murray Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Hey albert, where'd you get your plans?? I'm looking for some good plans, because I can't get turbocad to work.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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