JimRayden Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 I have a pretty dark red quilt maple flat-top les paul. But I'm not too happy with the quilt's deepness. The quilt is beautiful, all bookmatced and looks to be having the potential to have a real deep 3D to it. I thought of sanding the body, then applying some real dark stain, then sand it and then refinish it with red stain and clear (and maybe adding a lil' burst in the process). But the thickness of the top veneer is really scaring me off. It's paper thin, I have a feeling that when I stain it and try to sand it, I'll go right through it. Any pointers? Bad idea? ---------- Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 If it's an Epi let it be, if it's a gibson (which I doubt if it has a veneer) go ahead, the gibson top are drop top maple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzocchi705 Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 I beleve you have a ESP Eclipse? Could you not just email ESP and ask them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimRayden Posted April 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 It is an ESP indeed. it's the ESP EC-100. I don't know how they could help me more than this forum. I bet they would talk me out of refinishing the guitar and ordering a custom one from them. ----------- Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feylya Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 The EC-100 is a maple cap instead of a veneer as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimRayden Posted April 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 I must of mixed up the words. It's a darn thin piece of maple. That's what it is. ------------ Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzocchi705 Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 I think ESP would tell you what the guitar is made out of, just dont mention the re-finish! A Veneer IS a thin peice of wood, you didnt mix up your words. My friend has an ESP like that, same colour and hardware, although i think his is the EC1000, its a carved top anyway. Very nice guitar. Erm, yes, you wont know if ESP will give you the info unless you ask them. That seems to be your best bet. (well to me it seems like that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimRayden Posted April 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Well, the papers say the body is mahogany and the top is quilted maple. I don't think they could tell me anything more precise. ------------ Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Rosenberger Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 (edited) I think the lower end eg. 100 sreies are veneered tops. From a cost standpoint it would be prohibitively expensive to use thick maple on a $300 guitar Edited April 20, 2005 by Scott Rosenberger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimRayden Posted April 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 "think maple"... you mean thick? ----------- Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Rosenberger Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Yeah Thick, sorry my brain was going faster than my fingers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimRayden Posted April 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 In that case, your post was just repeating what I mentioned in the first post. It's damn thin! (Therefore it is not thick ) You think I could accidently sand through it if I were to strip and re-stain the body? ---------- Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Rosenberger Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 You think I could accidently sand through it if I were to strip and re-stain the body? ---------- Jimbo ← Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimRayden Posted April 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 You think I could accidently sand through it if I were to strip and re-stain the body? ---------- Jimbo ← Yes ← Damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Jim, Go to Atlantic City. Put a quarter in the first slot machine you see. If you hit the big jackpot with one pull you have the kind of luck requred to not sand through veneer. I don't and sand through every time I try. At least a little. Even if you don't go through you can get it so thin that the grain figure sort of washes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimRayden Posted April 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Thanks, I feel much better now. I'm still gonna butcher the back of the guitar to suit my body and hand better. MWUHAHahahaa... *ahem* ---------- Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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