Odin Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 (edited) Just i little think that struck me today Howcome theres not the same hype around old Gibsons, like theres with old Fenders? Is it because Gibsons doesnt LOOK better when aging, but Fenders does? I know this is not the right forum, but i guess many of you have views on this.. Edited June 25, 2006 by Odin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Are you joking!! Most vintage freaks would go just as mad for a 50's les paul as they would a 50's strat, personally i would prefer the gibbo anyday but i dont have that kind of money The only real difference between fender collectors and gibson collectors is people dont mind (as much) old fenders being well worn, gibson collectors get very finicky if anythings been bashed about too much. Fender people want used but original, gibson people want pristine but nicely aged although strangely they dont seem to mind the odd headstock reglue OLD gibbo's look great, i love the old sunbursts where the red has faded (unburst). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapbarstrat Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 I suppose you could go post this exact same message over at the Les Paul forum, and afterward, brag about how many bullet-holes you have in your body. It's easier to make a fake "vintage Fender" (cheap bodies and necks were made for years) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin Posted June 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 hey relax...! Im just talking about guitars.. Ok...old les Pauls (i was thinking of them) are worth a lot (all old things are..after a while) but i have never heard how much better they sound than new ones. And...old les Pauls does not look better than a new one...Fenders does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Dude, seriously, 50's Les Pauls tend to command even more idiotic high prices than vintage Fenders. It's got nothing to do with age, everything to do with hype and absurdly rich collectors. Even badly damaged 50's Les Paul will command stupid money. I was talking to a guy of mine who semi-frequently repairs instruments for fairly known players, including some who own 50's Les Paul Standards (flame, bursts), and he won't repair some of them because his insurance won't cover the insurance; mint condition guitars have gone for between 175 and 200 thousand dollars. There are plenty of folks who will swear blind that the old LP's (50's and 60's, but I believe the 58 is the 'holy grail' to many) are tons better than the current crowd. No question. You're clearly not hanging around the right forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Howcome theres not the same hype around old Gibsons, like theres with old Fenders? Is it because Gibsons doesnt LOOK better when aging, but Fenders does? Too many broken headstocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin Posted June 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 (edited) Ok il drop the whole subject. Have you heard that it was actually the communists that made the les Paul...in order to make americans more interested in rock n roll and smoking pot than making war. Edited June 25, 2006 by Odin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Conspiracy theory, and a stupid one at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitefly SA Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 yeah, that seems really stupid. Who'd of thought though, all this time Les Paul was a commie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 And who'd'a thought that Communist Russians would run a business in capitalist America? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 in order to make americans more interested in rock n roll and smoking pot than making war. too bad it didn't work, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Have you heard that it was actually the communists that made the les Paul...in order to make americans more interested in rock n roll and smoking pot than making war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledzendrix1128 Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 (edited) in order to make americans more interested in rock n roll and smoking pot than making war. too bad it didn't work, eh? Yeah, then France would still be under German control. - im sorry i had to, it was just set up too nicely Edited June 25, 2006 by Ledzendrix1128 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 in order to make americans more interested in rock n roll and smoking pot than making war. too bad it didn't work, eh? Yeah, then France would still be under German control. - im sorry i had to, it was just set up too nicely Dude, you're confusing the Cold War with the second World War... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 When I read his post, I thought he was referring to the relic'ing trend, that you see Fender relic stuff/info all the time, but you really don't hear much about trying to relic a LP or an SG very much. Least that's where I thought he was going with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Dude, you're confusing the Cold War with the second World War... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitefly SA Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 easy mistake to make, so any one catch the bears in the world cup last week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin Posted June 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 (edited) [When I read his post, I thought he was referring to the relic'ing trend, that you see Fender relic stuff/info all the time, but you really don't hear much about trying to relic a LP or an SG very much] Thanks Drak. What i meant was the relic trend and the hype about old fenders sound so much better than new ones..(NOT what old gibsons are worth to collectors and others)...i dont see the same hype when it comes to Gibsons. Maybe im ignorant. Edited June 25, 2006 by Odin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitefly SA Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 well if im not mistaken i think fender switched to poly which isn't as good at letting the wood breath or some noise, apparently its supposed to help the sound with age to let the wood breath a bit like nitro does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Old Gibsons (in general) are said to be better in pretty much every aspect -- sound, quality, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitefly SA Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 yeah and i think there are just less of them left than fenders, and a fender can be had for cheaper i would imagine (because there are more of them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 I think the Fender thing is even more dramatic with their old basses. I'm not sure how much old Strats or Teles go for, but I've seen Jazz basses going for $14,000 (with bids) on ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 I think the Fender thing is even more dramatic with their old basses. I'm not sure how much old Strats or Teles go for, but I've seen Jazz basses going for $14,000 (with bids) on ebay. Is that right!! About 10 years ago the 60's fender basses were dirt cheap compared to the guitars of the same age, i always presumed bassists were less bothered about the whole vintage thing, being more forward thinkers and all. I had a 60's mustang bass in perfect (closet classic) condition that i payed £300 for back then from a guitar shop, i sold it quite quickly (for the same price) because i never got on with the short scale length Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin Posted June 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 I rememer beeing in NY ten years ago, and i tried some 60s Fender jazz basses, they went for between 10 - 15.ooo$ Where they worth it? Absolute not.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 WezV, don't confuse bassists with collectors. Of course, I do have to give the "myth" some weight, because many professional bassists (such as Flea and Juan Alderete [The Mars Volta, Racer X]) tout the greatness of vintage Fender basses. http://cgi.ebay.com/1962-Fender-Jazz-Bass-...1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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