Maurits Posted September 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 So that is why we drilled holes in our wood It does kind of make sense now that I read it, thanks for that info. We had the problem of the blade going off quite a bit sawing the proto wings, so this is a relieve to hear. And yes zebrawood can be very good looking wood. It looks really good with the fretboardwood we choose as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travismoore Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 its looking really nice and good idea with the holes that will probley help prevent it from cracking =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurits Posted September 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 (edited) Lets hope it does. Have you started shaping the zebrawood yourself Travis? BTW. here are some rough mockups Dan did. http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/D-m...mockupbass2.png http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/D-m...mockupbass1.png Edited September 6, 2006 by Maurits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travismoore Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Not yet i was waiting to find someone with a bandsaw but i have a jig saw and my dad says if i get the right sort of blad for that i could use that but i would still need to use a bandsaw on the neck because of its width and how acurate it needs to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurits Posted October 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 It's been a while but we've done some more work on the basses. We glued the necks, which turned out really well. Plus we roughcut the wings, the hardware came in and had some practise routing in the proto. Here's one of the necks. http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191/Ne...es/DSCF1502.jpg Bass A, this is a real looker I must say. We arranged it so that the grain in the zebra and the fingerboard kind of blend into each other on the bass wing. The whole thing Another shot And bass B, the zebrano on this one couldn't be more different. All of it Enjoy and thanks, Maurits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travismoore Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 (edited) Nice! looks like alot of work sanding off extra wood though Keep the good work up =) Edited October 1, 2006 by travismoore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielM Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 yeah the sanding is going to take donkey's years but most we are planning to route off most of the excess with a template following router bit, then fine sand it either by hand or with StewMac's Robosander which I recently bought. goign to use the robosander on the neck anyway with a template to get a smooth taper on it after (band)sawing the rough taper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travismoore Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Ahh cool that should make is abit easyer =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielM Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 so after a long time, finally some more progress on these basses! we have a rough taper cut, my god that maple is hard. we also had to make a new neck template after deciding what we made was huge for a 4-stringer. we did a whole lot of other stuff aswell but we'll put some new pics up soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGGR Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 I do see an issue with the dilling of the holes, though. I understand the "stress relief on jigsaw blade" part, and that it's easier to make the jigsaw go around the corner, but when it comes to routing final shape down....I see an issue with tear-outs. These big blobs of wood (in between the holes) are prone to creating tear-outs. That would keep me from using this method. Would love to see how the Zebrano looks like when sanded into shape. Seen that Zebrano is quarter sawn,.....flat sawn would have created an awesome pattern.....curious how this quarter-sawn wood will end up looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travismoore Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 I look forward to the new pics =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick500 Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 It's been my experience with Robosanders that you shouldn't use them to get right up to the final shape; the surfaces of the sanding drums aren't perfect and there is the possibility of sanding into the body very slightly beyond the template-following bearing (especially with larger grit drums). No danger of tearout though, so there are definite positives and negatives as opposed to routing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielM Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 thanks for the heads up RGGR. I will see how the off cuts react to routing as I have plenty, I'll check how hard it is to sand the zebra flush, because then I might just have to robosand the blobs out and then clean up with a router. if that doesn't work we're rather stuck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 thanks for the heads up RGGR. I will see how the off cuts react to routing as I have plenty, I'll check how hard it is to sand the zebra flush, because then I might just have to robosand the blobs out and then clean up with a router. if that doesn't work we're rather stuck... Naw, I don't see a big issue here --just use your router to take down each ridge individually --make small passes to bring it down to the edge of the drill holes, then move on to the next one. Once you've got them pretty consistent, you can use your template/follower bit. Shouldn't be any problem with tearout. It'll take a lot less time than sanding. If your router came with a collar guide, put that on, that will help prevent you from routing into the template. I usually use a jigsaw to rough cut the body, I'm going to try the drilled hole idea next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurits Posted January 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Routing it slowly but surely we'll get there I think. I wasn't planning to rout it to final shape in one go. Mickguard, if you do I wouldn't drill as many holes a we did as the more you drill, the bigger pain in the backside it is routing I think. Progress on this thing really is going at a snail's pace at the moment, We both have exams coming up in a week and after that I hope we can work on them more and finally get these beasts up and running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_ado Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 man more pics i loved the design and when i saw the wood ive been watching it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielM Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 (edited) well we've done some work and now the pictures are up! Maurits thought of somehting nice, to inlay the veneer in the back of the board the you'll see the lines from the side thus keeping the top of the board effectively unlined and undisturbed, and it should make for a more consistant overall tone across the board. I'm not sure what I'll do yet as the lines do look rather snazzy... a freshly slotted board veneer being glued in the slots http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191/Ne...el/DSCF2050.jpg nut slots routed, 6mm wide in which we're going to stick an ebony nut made from the cutoff from the fretboard http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191/Ne...el/DSCF2038.jpg most of the excess veneer removed, though as you can see there are some that need reslotting and a new veneer putting in as it went wrong... http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191/Ne...el/DSCF2056.jpg we have headstocks! http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191/Ne...es/DSCF1997.jpg http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191/Ne...es/DSCF1976.jpg Edited February 19, 2007 by DanielM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travismoore Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Looking good! Keep up the good work =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielM Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Allright, it's been a while but here's an update on the basses! after being on Hiatus for a while due to finals etc. we finally got cracking again. Bass 2 has the Perimeter routed and the roundover is on there too which makes a world of difference. bass 1 is currently being routed and and after a slight run in with some tearout I'm going to finish it up today and see what I can do to rescue it. Bass II: http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191/Ne...II/P1012606.jpg http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191/Ne...II/P1012605.jpg as some of you will notice there is some router burn going on there but nothing some sanding won't cure I think, and we had some perculiarity surrounding the roundover bit which maybe somebody can explain. going along the grain it all went fine but going across the grain (end grain etc) it was leaving a ledge which would make you think it was set too deep. so we set it more shallow and did it thus and then we'll sand it down to a nice smooth edge. The tearout on Bass 1 is not as dramatic a I first suspected after some cleaning I think it will be salvagable with only minor design changes. The Tearout on Bass 1 and it on the bench with the template (which is also slightly different from bass 2's as a slight mishap in the cutting called for it.) http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191/Ne...0I/P1012608.jpg http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191/Ne...0I/P1012609.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travismoore Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Wow zebrano bass is looking awsome! Zebrano looks quite similar so my bass actually (in terms or grain) Good to see some progress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurits Posted July 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Here's the other bass awaiting pickup cavities and the controll cavity. Killer grain but some resinpockets on the front and side. http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191/Ne...0I/P7030288.jpg http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191/Ne...0I/P7030289.jpg http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191/Ne...0I/P7030293.jpg http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191/Ne...0I/P7030299.jpg Enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travismoore Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 YAY progress =D Its looking good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmrentis Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Its looking very nice! I see all those pockets, thats the stuff you hate to see, but I think it adds character and I bet you could do something cool to make them less noticeable, although they really aren't bad because of the figuring of the zebra wood. I am working with some now and there is one area above where the lower horn will be that I am worried about. The plank I got this piece from had quite a few nasty little checks that went from the face right throught the back, diagonally. I'm hoping that my lower horn will be short enough to avoid this area, 95% sure it will be. How have you liked the zebrawood so far, would you use it again? Do you have any idea if a thin piece would bend alright? Best of luck to you, keep the pics coming and keep up the excellent work! J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurits Posted July 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 (edited) Thanks for the compliments guys. About the resin pockets, yeah, they do add character. The ones on the side of the upper bout could cause a problem though. They are most likely going to show on the front and back if we add a traditional elbow contour and tummy cut, which when it gets flakey will look and feel bad. I seem to remember Drak filling resin pockets on some of his Telecasters, but does anyone else have some advice on how best to do this? Any advice would be greatly apreciated. Thanks. Edit: jmrentis, I quite like zebrawood. Works well enough. Would I use it again? I might somewhere in the future, I love the looks of it. It is heavy though, and I'll have to see what it sounds like. Edited July 5, 2007 by Maurits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_ado Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 my bass have a few pocket in them if your going to shot lacquer on it they will eventualy fill up and u cant see them at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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