Unromantic_Me Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 As above yeah, ignore how stupid this question is.....im just asking to confirm my thoughts.....and yes im still new to all this....so take it easy lol Les Paul.....Neck Through or Bolt on *runs and hides* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlexVDL Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Glued in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unromantic_Me Posted September 23, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 your just trying to confuse me arent you lol....explain haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 he is telling you the truth....it is a set neck(glued in) some custom builders have made them as neck thru,and if i were to build one(which i am sure i will eventually)that is how i would make it. http://edroman.com/repairs/repairs_gib.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unromantic_Me Posted September 23, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 I dont doubt he was telling the truth just i have studied the other two just not glue on...so i was just asking what it involves....whats the difference, and why would you choose a neck through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 i prefer neck thrus because of personal preference and i believe them to be easier. let me try to find you some good reference material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 something interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 pretty good pic,strange method though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 interesting but unrelated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 neck thrus and bolt IN (not ON) rule.... better upper fret access here's a diagram i did of a bolt in neck pocket and the heel, i have screws but you could easily just glue and clamp it in the pocket for a day, and voila set neck, however some people say that glue in the neck pocket kills the tone and sustain.... hope this helps, but you can kinda ignore the direct mounting stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveq Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 neck thrus and bolt IN (not ON) rule.... better upper fret access Can you explain this? I'm not sure I'm following what you are saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 bolt in just means that the neck heel is further inside the body and extends past the fretboard.it gives easier upper fret access and some say a better tone.notice the pickup mounts directly onto the neck heel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 and if i remember right the sustain of a set neck is superior to a bolt on,but the tone transfer between the neck and body is dampened.i really think though that a tight set neck transfers tone very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulNeeds Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 OK. A Bolt neck is simply that - the neck's attached into the body by a number of large screws or bolts. In a through neck, the wood of the neck extends the entire length of the instrument - so there is no neck joint as such, just joints between the rest of the body and the extended neck wood. A fixed, set, glued in neck is in between in some ways. The neck and body a separate pieces of work, similar to a bolt neck. However, there are no bolts, and instead the neck is joined in a kind of glued tenon joint, extending deeper into the body than a bolt neck. This is in many ways a 'better' way of joining neck to body than bolts, if done properly - especially with a good tight fit. In other respects - harder to replace a broken neck, but it's possible to do it - and it is much easier to do than with a through neck instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 neck thrus and bolt IN (not ON) rule.... better upper fret access Can you explain this? I'm not sure I'm following what you are saying. there's less body heel for your thumb to run into, on neck thu's there isn't a heel on the body so it's smooth sailing all the way up the fretboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unromantic_Me Posted September 23, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 As with the diagram above...is there any chance someone could make a rough diagram like that but for a glued in neck so i have a full idea of what im gonna do with my les paul neck/body? I would appreciate this with a great deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlexVDL Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 look at gibson set necks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulNeeds Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 And ain't that top one a sloppy job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlexVDL Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Both are!! Gibson sucks... if you're talking about glued-in necks that is!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unromantic_Me Posted September 23, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 So lets to say if on my les paul i made the neck a glue in, and used the top picture as my basis.....would gaps on the neck that are ringed in the picture below actually need to be there?? If so i dont understand how the neck stays in place....if not, is it meantto be a tight tight flush joint? Also is the neck meant to be angled back from the body like that on a les paul? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 no you most definately would not want the gaps.that pic is from a site showing the sloppiness of that neck joint.you would want the tightest fit possible.the better the fit,the better the tone transfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 So lets to say if on my les paul i made the neck a glue in, and used the top picture as my basis.....would gaps on the neck that are ringed in the picture below actually need to be there?? If so i dont understand how the neck stays in place....if not, is it meantto be a tight tight flush joint? Also is the neck meant to be angled back from the body like that on a les paul? 1. Those gaps shouldn't be there... a well made neck joint should be nice and tight, ideally you can pickup the unglued neck and have the body come with it. I don't always manage that, but I try to shoot for a joint which won't fit together if I put 1 thickness of cheap copier paper round the tennon. 2. Yes, the angle is deliberate. Most set neck guitars have some neck angle, to bring the strings closer to the fret board. Basically, if your bridge is taller than your fingerboard is thick (most are) your strings will be close to the fretboard at the nut, and get further away the closer they get to the bridge. To bring the strings almost parallel to the fretboard you can either: -Lower the bridge (seems to be popular on this board, a good example is Wes's V). -Raise the fingerboard (look at a strat, or strat style guitar). -Angle the neck (as in the pick above). I think angling the neck is the most proffesional looking way to do it, but thats just IMO. Wes's recessed bridge looks very slick, and the rasied fingerboard works well on Strat type low bridges, but I'd avoid it with a tunamatic or other tall bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 one more reason to angle the neck is that it brings the headstock closer to the player,for ease of playing.my v is a 25"scale so i didn't bother(plus i prefer the strings to be closer to the body,)but a neck angle is much nicer imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unromantic_Me Posted September 24, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 angled neck it is then....thanks for all the confirmation on the neck joint....i got worried then over the hugh gapping holes.....so nice tight fit it is then.....but as i said ill come to that when i get to it...off to pick up my handsome looking wood tomorrow, so well get going from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 those pictures are sick and helarious at the same time LOL good luck with your neck joint adventures Unrom.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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