Need Some Advice/help

[~davie]

A while back I bought an unfinished body and filled grained but it didn't work that well, I think I thinned the grain filler too much (shouldn't have thinned it at all, but the instructions said so).

Then I proceeded to spray colour paint, and afterwards the grains like sticking out. What should do I? I thought about wiping on clear and leveling it out, but i doubt that's gonna fix it. I also thought about adding on more paint to the parts with grain showing, but that's like hard to do with a spray, the store doesn't have the brushing version either and I might run into trouble sanding it flat.

Should I just sand down the paint a bit and repaint it? or should I sand it down completely and try to fill the grain. And also I didn't use any kind of sealer or sanding sealer, should I have? Where would I get some?

[killemall8]

A while back I bought an unfinished body and filled grained but it didn't work that well, I think I thinned the grain filler too much (shouldn't have thinned it at all, but the instructions said so).

Then I proceeded to spray colour paint, and afterwards the grains like sticking out. What should do I? I thought about wiping on clear and leveling it out, but i doubt that's gonna fix it. I also thought about adding on more paint to the parts with grain showing, but that's like hard to do with a spray, the store doesn't have the brushing version either and I might run into trouble sanding it flat.

Should I just sand down the paint a bit and repaint it? or should I sand it down completely and try to fill the grain. And also I didn't use any kind of sealer or sanding sealer, should I have? Where would I get some?

i would say yes, you should have used sanding sealer. what kind of paint and clear are you using? if you are using sprayable clear, you can probably spray a really thick layer and then knock it down to level, but that would take a long time. but most likley you are going to hear " sand it down and re do it".

[~davie]

yeah, i'm probably gonna sand it down and redo it, but how exactly does sanding sealer work? and where do i get some? and will the sanding sealer help with the covering/filling grain?

hmm.. maybe I should check Benjamin Moore's.

Edited November 28, 2007 by ~davie

[syxxstring]

What kind or wood is it?

Sanding sealer is available at most places that sell stain, its in a can at my Home Depot labeled Sanding Sealer.

It sounds like you may need to grain fill and seal. There are many methods of doing both, that many people use with varying degrees of success.

[~davie]

The wood is hard ash.

What should I do at this point? If i sand down the body, the grain would still be partially filled by the leftover paint. Maybe I should just add sanding sealer after I sand off most of the paint and use the sealer to level the grain flat?

[syxxstring]

Ash can be kind of a pain.

You may think the existing paint will seal it, usually it wont for me it either lifts out or I sand through. Paint is just to soft for grain filling.

If you can level sand it you can then procede to level it with future coats.

I would sand and start with a sealer and then high build primer.

[~davie]

so after i sand it down, should i even bother with the grain filler?

or should i just go direct to the sanding sealer?

will sanding sealer help with filling what's left of the grain?

Edited November 30, 2007 by ~davie

[Drak]

Ash and a solid color coat, I would recommend sanding it mostly back down, and using 2-part epoxy from Home Depot thinned a bit.

It will dry brick hard, it will fill in your pores, and it will give you an excellent sandable flat surface on which to apply your color coats.

I usually sand my epoxy to 400 before applying any sort of color coat to reduce any deep scratches from the sandpaper to help your color coat look smooth.

[~davie]

hmm i see, maybe i could try that, but it a "tone killer" or anything?

and also is there a specific brand or product of it that i should use?

Edited November 30, 2007 by ~davie

[Drak]

but is it a "tone killer" or anything?

You did not SERIOUSLY just ask me that, did you?

As far as brand, I forget what they carry, it comes in a dual-syringe container, in 2 varieties, 5-minute and 1 hour.