rubber314chicken Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 using flake, like you would for a car? I wanna do a finish like this, but I'm not sure what to use for the clear coat. I"m too poor to buy automotive urethane, and I heard that deft lacquer doesn't work well of flake. would poly work? I"m going for a high gloss finish, but I can live with the lower gloss of poly. what size flake would I want to use, .025? I'd be applying it like this: http://pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=195802 so sprayability of the flake isn't important. should I use more than one size as well, or just use one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 .025 flake would require a 2.2mm spray nozzel. which i only know of one company that makes that size and they are 300 bucks. it would probably work with poly. only use one size, or else it will make it look bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syxxstring Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 You realize real flake that's solvent proof ain't cheap either right? Basically the method you are planning on using is similar to what old school flake does. It relies on the material you are applying the flake to is still wet, so a polly should work since they take a long time to dry. The only way I've done it using the stuff from Auto Air. I bought a large supply of Auto Air that it came with flake mixed in ready to spray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubber314chicken Posted February 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/ksflake.aspx is that solvent proof? and what paint should I use for a base coat? I'd like to stick with a brush on finish (the poly and the paint) so I don't have to fork over the money for an HVLP sprayer and buy paint and flake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 i dont think there is any way you can pull this off very well at all without spray equipment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syxxstring Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 (edited) The kustom shop stuff is solvent proof as it's made to work with automotive paints. You can do flake with out a spray gun, just takes thought and testing. One of the most popular way to do flakes these days is the flake buster gun from Old School Flake. It is a process where you dry spray flake into fresh clear. Do a google search there's tons of info. I dont know about brushing on a solid base, I have 5 guns and a few airbrushes so I keep going that way. Edited February 14, 2008 by syxxstring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntinDoug Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Tony from October Guitars does a lot of flake. His paint guy's name is Rich. You may be able to work out a deal with him on the paint work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihocky2 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/ksflake.aspx is that solvent proof? and what paint should I use for a base coat? I'd like to stick with a brush on finish (the poly and the paint) so I don't have to fork over the money for an HVLP sprayer and buy paint and flake. There is no way you can do a brush on finish with flake. The first rule of any metallics is that you do nto touch it with anything until it is buried under several coats of clear, and the larger the flake the more coats it takes to bury them. If you brush on a finish it will knock over all of the flakes and you will get a dull splotchy result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubber314chicken Posted February 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/ksflake.aspx is that solvent proof? and what paint should I use for a base coat? I'd like to stick with a brush on finish (the poly and the paint) so I don't have to fork over the money for an HVLP sprayer and buy paint and flake. There is no way you can do a brush on finish with flake. The first rule of any metallics is that you do nto touch it with anything until it is buried under several coats of clear, and the larger the flake the more coats it takes to bury them. If you brush on a finish it will knock over all of the flakes and you will get a dull splotchy result. okay, the cost of flake, poly, paint and a sprayer is over budget, so I guess I'll just have to find a different finish I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themortarman Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 I painted this guitar using Deft aresol lacquer and some flake stuff I bought from a hobby store. I would lay on a wet coat and sprinkle the sparkles on, and repeat a few times. It took a LOT of clear and sanding to finally get it level. Because of the way I did it I new that it would be hard to do the whole guitar so I did a fake binding and just did the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihocky2 Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 I am extreemely impressed with that flake job for using such a non-pro method. I think it came out very nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereordinary Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Yeah, kudos man, that Strat is one of the best-looking ever seen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksound Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Stike at Gadow Guitars does a crazy bass boat sparkle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodir Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 does any1 know how much flakes is enough for painting 1 body? 1ounce or more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themortarman Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 does any1 know how much flakes is enough for painting 1 body? 1ounce or more? The deal I bought was about the size of a aspirin bottle. I may have used have of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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