killemall8 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 in this topic http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.ph...=33152&st=0 perry does a rosewood neck. in post # 2 and on the second page, it shows the neck. but for some reason i cant figure out how to the the scarf way behind the nut like perry and some other people do. when i scarf it and flip over the headstock piece, the joint is right behind the nut. anyone have any pics of how you get it around the 3-4 frets instead of right behind the nut? i cant comprehend something without pics or thorough explanation. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanthus Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 http://public.fotki.com/xanthus/misc/scarfcuts.html Hope my 5 minutes of work helps Option 2 is what you're trying to do. It is a stronger joint and yields a longer neck/fretboard area at the expense of a shorter headstock, so cut accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 You scarf with a thicker neck blank, then remove the thickness from the back of the headstock , not the face. It's that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted February 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 http://public.fotki.com/xanthus/misc/scarfcuts.html Hope my 5 minutes of work helps Option 2 is what you're trying to do. It is a stronger joint and yields a longer neck/fretboard area at the expense of a shorter headstock, so cut accordingly. but thats what i meant i have been doing. i want the scarf to show on the back of the headstock away from directly below the nut. that just puts the nut right above the scarf in the back see: the scarf is way below the nut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanthus Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 but thats what i meant i have been doing. i want the scarf to show on the back of the headstock away from directly below the nut. that just puts the nut right above the scarf in the back see: the scarf is way below the nut. As it will be when you use the second method. Also, do what Setch said and use a thicker neck blank. When you cut the profile to final size, the scarf seam will move further and further down the neck. The extra material you take off the headstock must be from the back of the headstock (like Setch said) for it to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_labb Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 im not sure if its whats comfusing you, but the glue joint is on the bottom of the neck joint, not on top under the fretboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyonsdream Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 use a thick enough neck blank to avoid the scarf cut and have the strongest neck possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Untrue. If you use one-piece then you have the issue of grain runout with angled headstocks. The strongest neck possible would be the impractical combination of scarfing and single pieces laminated to the point of it being plywood! :-D That would be plain crazy however. Little gain for too much work. In theory, sound. But theory isn't what's keeping the millions of operating scarfed headstocks out there in the world together. I digress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted February 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 im not sure if its whats comfusing you, but the glue joint is on the bottom of the neck joint, not on top under the fretboard. what? neck joint? as in where the body meets the neck? no. its under the fretboard and lower than the nut is what i mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Untrue. If you use one-piece then you have the issue of grain runout with angled headstocks. The strongest neck possible would be the impractical combination of scarfing and single pieces laminated to the point of it being plywood! :-D That would be plain crazy however. Little gain for too much work. In theory, sound. But theory isn't what's keeping the millions of operating scarfed headstocks out there in the world together. I digress. I made this neck almost exactly as per your picture, except that the 2 outer lams' were scarfed, but the opposite way from the centre lam. It's not much more work than a standard laminated neck, and it allowed me to squeeze two necks out of the blank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Have you asked Perry? It is his work, and I am sure you could cut to the chase by just asking him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Untrue. If you use one-piece then you have the issue of grain runout with angled headstocks. The strongest neck possible would be the impractical combination of scarfing and single pieces laminated to the point of it being plywood! :-D That would be plain crazy however. Little gain for too much work. In theory, sound. But theory isn't what's keeping the millions of operating scarfed headstocks out there in the world together. I digress. I made this neck almost exactly as per your picture, except that the 2 outer lams' were scarfed, but the opposite way from the centre lam. It's not much more work than a standard laminated neck, and it allowed me to squeeze two necks out of the blank. Practical and economical to the last eh Setch? Good call on the usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Actually, it was a bit of a brown-trousers moment - suddenly realised one of my sections of timber was about 1" too short to suit the normal scarf joint I use. After a few minutes of panic I realised that scarfing the other way required less length, and would be totally hidden by the back strap - result! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Those brown trousers are quick to put on, and slow to get off aren't they? I've had a few choice moments like those, and they're really not pleasant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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