Prostheta Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 The shellac might be reacting with the solvent in the primer also....is it water-based? I mean, shellac is sticky in that virtually everything sticks to it (and vice versa) so any re-activation of the shellac would create a bit of a mess. I don't think I can get gel stains here so I can't reproduce the technique to help illustrate what is happening. I've got a bead on some nice Ash though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2.5itim Posted May 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 The primer is water based, I might just have to bite the bullet and pay $22 for transtint black pigment and mix that into nitro lacquer to get rid of the shellac all together. It seems that transtint is the only thing I can find that will mix with nitro and I think if I leave the nitro on for enough time to "cure" before applying the primer I may get good results. Im going to bring all of my spare ash to work and run it thru the media blaster because I'm starting to run out of test pieces lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Transtint is what I use to tint lacquer. There are powdered pigments for it as well, but I like the liquid and I have it on hand to use as wood dye anyway. It goes a long way too. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2.5itim Posted May 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 I'm spraying the black, im actually really liking how it looks with the open pores all black. I'm thinking I'm going to leave it like this. Opinions? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2.5itim Posted May 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Yep, I'm super happy with how this turned out, I think the open grain look just gives it enough to look at over the smoothness of the other way I had it without being overbearing. Im gonna let this sit over the weekend while I go enjoy the awesome scenery of Arkansas and will spray lacquer when I get home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMpleONe89 Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 That looks good. I bet it'll look great if left as a matte finish. I can barely see the patched area but I'm not sure if it's some lacquer run in the area above the bridge pup cavity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightroExpress Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 That is really cool, man. I dig it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2.5itim Posted May 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 39 minutes ago, SIMpleONe89 said: That looks good. I bet it'll look great if left as a matte finish. I can barely see the patched area but I'm not sure if it's some lacquer run in the area above the bridge pup cavity. There is one spot in the patched area that is still slightly showing the open pores, only slightly. You can only see it at certain angles, I'm gonna see how it looks after nitro and then decide if I want to put a pick guard on it to cover it up. I have had a bad urge to make some pick guards out of Damascus steel so this just might be one that gets it. Thanks andrew, I apreciate that!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightroExpress Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Now you HAVE to do a Damascus pickguard. That's the coolest thing I've heard all day! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2.5itim Posted May 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) Haha Andrew I really really want to! I've been wanting to do a bunch with Damascus but it's so damn expensive, we will have to see if I can get it into the budget. I know Andrew has already seen this but I might as well put it on this post since the first one I make will be going on this guitar but I spent a little time yesterday with my programmer and we got the bridge designed and the cad drawing finished of my 6 string fixed bridge and the program wrote, I still need to draw up and program my saddles but I should be able to start cutting material on Monday. I couldn't figure out how to post video so I will just post some screen shots of the simulation running. Edited May 21, 2016 by 2.5itim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2.5itim Posted May 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) I freaking got it!!! I got back from Arkansas around 10 this morning and got straight to work on this. It took me about 7 hours to get the red how I wanted but I think it is perfect!! So the steps that I took in case anyone else wants to do it are as follows, go thru the open grain with a wire brush and dig out the pores finish sand to 320 acrylic based primer Water based auto black base coat let dry over the weekend 2 coats of shellac let sit for 1 hour red water based paint applied by hand with a little bitty art paint brush this takes forever so start at one side of the body and by the time you finish on the other side the first side is dry enough for the next step "sand" the top with 0000 steel wool, I found it best to go against the grain because then it focuses more on taking the red off the black areas instead of pulling out the red from the open pores I didn't want this to stand out a whole lot so I did one last final coat with the black base coat, this coat I turned my gun way down to where it barely let any liquid thru. I didn't want it to completely cover the red just dull it down a bit. Spray the nitro as a finish. And thats it, here's the pics! Edited May 22, 2016 by 2.5itim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightroExpress Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 That's so cool! I really like your muted red rather than the usual bright colors you see in these finishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2.5itim Posted May 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Thanks Andrew, it has been a huge headache and I don't know if I will ever do it again but I am very happy with it. As for the "muted red" it's pretty dang cool, in my shop light you almost can't even see it, it just looks mostly black but in the sun it still pops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2.5itim Posted May 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Here it is in my shop lighting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMpleONe89 Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Wow that's really cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Wow, well there you go! I agree about the bright reds. Way too plastic-looking. This looks like something right up my street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2.5itim Posted May 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Thanks guys, I appreciate it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2.5itim Posted May 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 My first bridge which will be used on this guitar just came off the mill, I couldn't find a 1/2" chamfer tool for the mounting holes in the whole shop so I'm gonna go buy one now and chamfer them tomorrow and I will cut the floor height when I do that. Then it's just off to anodizing, I'm kind of thinking about doing this one red to match the top and set it off a little bit! heres some pics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMpleONe89 Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Gotta love DIY metal hardware! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2.5itim Posted May 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) Haha yep! I will be selling these in 6,7 and 8 string in single scale and multi scale configurations, out of aluminum and brass so keep me in mind if you find yourself needing some lol Edited May 23, 2016 by 2.5itim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightroExpress Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Yay! Black 7, please 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psikoT Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Love that bridge... can't wait to see the saddles! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 A red bridge will be very cool. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2.5itim Posted May 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 PsikoT thanks man, I'm hoping to get the saddles ran next week. I want to run about 100 at a time so I need to order a little more aluminum for that. Scott I think it would be cool and different, maybe a red bridge and knobs, I'll do one red and one black and if I think it looks tacky I'll go with the black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekkelenburg Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Looks good. But why choose aluminum instead of stainless steel? Is it gonna hold? Or is it a special kind of aluminum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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