Curtis P Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Here I can play the starting, but when it gets to the E||-----|---------------------------------|----------------------------- B||-----|--------2h3p2----5-----5--2--|-------2-----2-----2-------- G||-----|-----2--------2---4-----4--2--|-------2-----2-----2-------- D||-----|--------------------------------|------------------------------ A||-----|--0-----------------------------|-----------------------------| E||-0h2-|------------------4--4------2---|-----2-----2--0--0-----0--| I dont get how you play the 5 and 4 at the same time, is it linke in stairway to heaven where you use 2 fingers? or is it a special chord? i cant really figure it out and, its my girlfriends favorite song, so i want to show it to her when she gets back friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litchfield Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Of course you use 2 fingers. How could you do it with one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted July 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 i dont know how you can do it with one, but, when you use 2, how you you pluck the 3 strings at the same time? i have tried it every way i can think of and it just done come out right Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted July 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 wait, i figured it out a bit, sounds a bit better now, just bout to record to see if i can get some tips Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litchfield Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Bear in mind EC was using a nylon string. Steel strings will be kinda bright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dangerouso Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 You play this tune fingerstyle. Thumb for the bass notes, in this case the E string, fourth fret, and either index and middle or middle and ring for the G and B strings. You CAN play it using hybrid picking (pick on the bass notes, and middle/ring for the treble, but it won't quite sound right, unless you have an incredible amount of control over your pick when using hybrid). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultraman Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 use one finger to bar at the 4th fret and use another finger to play 5th fret. bar chord! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dangerouso Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 You mean left hand wise? You can barre. I wouldn't recommend it based on getting unwanted notes from the A and D strings. I have to admit, I've never seen the unplugged vid, so I don't know how EC does it. I would play the E with my index, G with middle and B with ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted July 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 i tried that, it dont come out right, i been playing it like this: pinky fret 5, ring fret 4, middle fret 4, low e thumb on low e, then using my middle finger to strum the fret 4 and 5 its sounds decent, but not to sure if there is a better way Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dangerouso Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Not to be a prick, but practice up, I'm willing to bet a fairly large sum o' cash that EC does it one of the ways I outlined above. Not an easy song to play first time through, but a little practice on the technique, and you'll have it forever. Look for the vid, and play it like EC, can't be wrong that way, you won't have to deal with my Nazi technique suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted July 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 ok, i been practicin it for only a few min couple more days i should be gettin good at it Thanks Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 You mean left hand wise? You can barre. I wouldn't recommend it based on getting unwanted notes from the A and D strings. I have to admit, I've never seen the unplugged vid, so I don't know how EC does it. I would play the E with my index, G with middle and B with ring. FWIW, the tab book I found had a wrapped thumb on the low E... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SguitarM527 Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 theres no wrapped thumb thats stupid you dont need one. just either finger pick, or hybrid pick, either way you cant play the song if you use just a pick (unless you must a bunch of strings)... anyways tears in heaven is a relatively easy song, just practice, and ull get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 theres no wrapped thumb thats stupid you dont need one. just either finger pick, or hybrid pick, either way you cant play the song if you use just a pick (unless you must a bunch of strings)... anyways tears in heaven is a relatively easy song, just practice, and ull get it. It's hardly stupid: it's far easier that contorting your fingers, and it sounds just as good. And learn to spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SguitarM527 Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 sorry i misspelled "mute". anyways, i didnt mean it is stupid, it certainly isnt and im sorry for saying that. what i meant is that it may work for some, but the easier method is clearly just fingerpicking. how is reaching from 2nd fret-5th fret "contorting" your fingers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 sorry i misspelled "mute". anyways, i didnt mean it is stupid, it certainly isnt and im sorry for saying that. what i meant is that it may work for some, but the easier method is clearly just fingerpicking. how is reaching from 2nd fret-5th fret "contorting" your fingers? It's far more work than a wrapped thumb... the 4/5 thing is the same setup as an open D chord (but two frets up), and I find that it falls in very naturally. The only thing left is the low E, which is taken care of by the thumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SguitarM527 Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 im not sure im understanding you... all im saying is that if you use your pinky/ring for the 4/5, and then use ure 1st finger for the low e... i dunno, maybe im just wierd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowser Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 I use my thumb for E too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dangerouso Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 The thumb sounds like a solid plan to me. Keep in mind we're talking about the fretting hand here. Now that it's out there, in fact, I think the thumb might be the BEST option for fretting the low notes on the E. This is hardly "new" or even "poor technique" for that matter. Some chords you can only finger this way, others it just makes it a heck of a lot easier. Nice that somebody had a good reference, thanks Reaper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 The thumb sounds like a solid plan to me. Keep in mind we're talking about the fretting hand here. Now that it's out there, in fact, I think the thumb might be the BEST option for fretting the low notes on the E. This is hardly "new" or even "poor technique" for that matter. Some chords you can only finger this way, others it just makes it a heck of a lot easier. Nice that somebody had a good reference, thanks Reaper! No problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky1 Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 (edited) Edited September 19, 2004 by lucky1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultraman Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 trust me its the bar chord!!! i dont know how you find it innacurate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SguitarM527 Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 ive tried over and over agian playing trough the song and not once to i find it natural or comfortable to use my thumb at all.... i just odnt ge tit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wylde1919 Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 The thumb idea is a good one, I use the same technique when playing one of the counterpoint lines in Randy Rhoads' "Dee" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_urr_A Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 IMO, you'd need pretty big hands to comfortably wrap your thumb up around a nylon acoustic neck. The way I play the part asked about is simply using my index finger to fret whatever is on the low E (or the A string, in some parts of the song), and my middle and ring finger to fret things on the G and B strings respectively, sometimes using my index, if it's not busy. For picking, I use my thumb for the bass notes, and my index and middle finger for the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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