I Agree in some ways Wes, i do also play and set up my guitars with virtual no relief and it does buzz on the lower fret but thats fine, people who set there guitars up like this play Shread with the Dirt up full and you cannot hear it, it doesnt come through the amp which is what is important. I play with a light touch and i can get away it and it is not suitable for everyone. I am a guitar tech to trade and would love to set up every guitar that way but its not possible, as it is not for everyone. Relief is meant to give a little in the middle, this is due to the way a string vibrates. It like a skipping rope. Imagine you and a friend are turning a rope (across a street) around like a skipper would and it is touching the street in the middle of the road. Ok with me? Now take a little step back and the rope no longer hits the road............. thats relief! Basically the action has to get slightly higher every fret ( i said slightly) or its gonna hit the next fret. Guitars buzz because a metal string is hiting a metal fret, theres no getting away form that. A truss rod is NOT there to strengthen a neck its purpose is to straighten a neck and counteract the string tension. Do not confuse the two. Wood is there to strengthen the neck! Now what was the post about?