Chuck_Chill-Out Posted January 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Pros, I took the center leaf to a local furniture refinisher, and he told me the black was mineral deposits in the cherry that reacted to the stain. I'll look at the maker's mark on it to find out where it is from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I doubt it would be the minerals....more than likely the tannic acid in Cherry. Not sure what would be in the stain for it to react. Normally it is ferric compounds that react with Cherry, same as Oak and Walnut. Is it a stain or a dye? Stains are often made using pigments that are derived from iron or other traditionally-made pigments so that might be the culprit. Bit of a long shot though. That's some crazy reaction! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Chill-Out Posted January 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Minwax stain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Chill-Out Posted January 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Okay, I actually had time to get into the shop. I feel like I am THIS CLOSE to getting this finished. I spent 2 and a half hours just sanding. Working my way through the grits... I worked my way to 1500 on the fretboard. It feels like glass! Scott, I am trying to follow your footsteps in making wood look purty. I think I have a love/hate relationship to sanding. I love seeing the results, but hate the time it takes. I know that it is necessary, though. Oh, Sunday was the first time I played in public. I played in our church with our choir and orchestra. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 I'm looking forward to see how this ends up. It's got a Bo Diddly thing going on. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Chill-Out Posted January 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Okay, stupid question. Not that I am going to get ANYTHING done on this over the weekend with the snow coming down and the workshop is 10 miles away. When I am finished sanding,and install my nut, should I then add the finish or should I install the copper foil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 I add copper foil after any kind of finishing unless it's oil. Burnish that stuff down like hell ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Chill-Out Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 On 1/23/2016 at 0:59 PM, Prostheta said: I add copper foil after any kind of finishing unless it's oil. Burnish that stuff down like hell ;-) I am planning on an oil finish, so I guess I'll shield it first. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 This is not to say that foil will not stick to an cured oil finish, simply my preference. A clean (dust-free) cavity works really well from past experience. Oil in my mind would be more in line with "a contaminant" that might prevent the adhesive working as well. Then again, once it's cured (polymerised, crosslinked, etc.) I'm unsure. My chemistry is basic and only on a need to know basis. *cough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psikoT Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 You can also mask all the cavities, finish with whatever finish you want and then proceed with electronics... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I've only just caught up with this thread. Interesting design and methods. I very much look forward to seeing it in its finished glory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Chill-Out Posted April 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Well, due to work and family, I have not been in the shop since JANUARY, I was able to squeeze about 30 minutes in on Saturday and shielded the cavities. I think I'll have this done by the time I retire, which looks to be about 30 years. Oh, I've named it - THE BRICK. Sucker weighs a lot. Something I've learned, maple is heavy. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Yep. That stuff is a PITA to haul around in 13ft/4m lengths too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Chuck, it is good to see you are still chipping away at this! SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psikoT Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 14 hours ago, Chuck_Chill-Out said: Oh, I've named it - THE BRICK. Sucker weighs a lot. Something I've learned, maple is heavy. Weight is, from my last two builds, the main criteria while choosing the wood for the body... probably is the age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Chill-Out Posted May 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Okay, I had three whole hours to work on Monday afternoon! Spent a lot of time sanding, sanding, and more sanding. The body and neck were sanded to 1000 grit. Decided to attach the nut, so here is a picture of it so far. I also wanted to see how the wood would look with a Tung Oil finish. on it. I had Tung Oil on hand, so I wanted to see how it was. Here is a picture of the cherry cutoff and the maple/cherry/maple/cherry/maple neck. Thoughts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Chill-Out Posted May 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Oh, when this will be curing (? Oil needs to cure, correct?) I will be working on this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Depends on what is in the "Tung" oil you used; genuine Tung nut oil takes longer to dry than those mixed with varnishes, or if it's polymerised in some manner. Wipe it with a clean cloth and if the cloth is visibly oily, you're not done. If the cloth smells a little of the oil but you can't see any, you're close. If the cloth smells like a sock, you need to ensure you put them back in pairs before the significant other spots what you've done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Chill-Out Posted May 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Pros, it is Formby's Tung Oil finish. I had to purchase it for a college class I had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Gah, I hate it when you have to pay for education.... Just researched the Formby's Tung Oil and it's a blend. Probably like a wiping poly than anything else. You should be good to go sooner rather than later for that anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 It's an amusing bass....heavy? You're not kidding me man. haha Whether you like the shape or not, its been done solidly and all of the points which make an instrument better than as not have been ticked. Has it made you think twice about using lots of Maple and Cherry in one place at one time? Man, the planet and that bass are going to have a gravitational love affair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Chill-Out Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 4 hours ago, Prostheta said: It's an amusing bass....heavy? You're not kidding me man. haha Whether you like the shape or not, its been done solidly and all of the points which make an instrument better than as not have been ticked. Has it made you think twice about using lots of Maple and Cherry in one place at one time? Man, the planet and that bass are going to have a gravitational love affair. Hey, I don't have to worry about neck dive! :-) All kidding aside, the wood choice was due to what my father-in-law had in the basement of his house. He was a wood hoarder before he died and the basement was crammed full of mainly oak, but there was maple, cherry, and mahogany. For my next build, I'll definitely choose something lighter. Next build two words that make my wife break out in a rash... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 hahaha When your knees go, everything above it tends to follow. Cherry's a great wood if you've got pieces that don't want to crack on you. It's a bit heavy of course. From what I remember, Cherry is also a great wood for aging using Ferric Acetate (steel wool pickled in vinegar for a couple of weeks, lid off). Not as spectacular as Walnut or Oak, but pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Chill-Out Posted April 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 Wow, it's been close to a year since I have been in here. Life certainly has eliminated my free time. I was given a promotion at work - EHS Manager - Plastics Division. Pros - More money. More money than I expected. Cons - More time at work - in TWO locations. Less time for work. After busy summer and winter swim seasons for my daughter (I announced home meets. She hates it when I do - I use my British accent), I was able to get into the woodshop Monday to complete this thing. My friend's granddaughter is going to wood burn my name in Japanese along the headstock. Then I will apply finish to the headstock and The Brick will be completed. When The headstock is finished, I will take better pictures and post them here. Thanks to all who gave great advice during this build. I now have a better understanding in planning and execution of an idea. Yes, I am bitten by the bug. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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