prodigy Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 ok so ive been reading all over about duncans and dimarzios i have a pair of dimarzio 7 string humbuckers, the tone zone 7 and air norton 7 on my RG1527CB and i love the tone and crunch it delivers im plannin to make a strat style or tele later on, and i was wondering what pickups should i use? the hot rails from seymore? or other from dimarzio? i need feedback i play a lot of fast licks and jazz i play a lot of metal(my 7 string) i play a lot of stuff from blues artists, like stevie ray vaughn and stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 it is purely a matter of opinion.i prefer duncans over dimarzios.just because i do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Librero Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 i don't even know if their pickup charts have similar standards when rating bass/mid/hi responses. if they are, you can see that most Duncan's (with humbuckers at least) tend to be more trebly. but if you can't accurately use these charts to compare across brands, well... i lost my train of thought. at any rate, Wes is right. it's just a matter of taste and opinion. i will say however that outside curiosity, there's little reason to switch to Duncans if you're already happy as you seem to be with Dimarzios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Rosenberger Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 I have Favorites from Both companies. My Favorite Dimarzio Combo is a AirZone or Tone Zone Bridge and an Air Norton Neck. But only in a PRS/Lespaul type Guitar In my super Strats I prefer A Duncan Distortion or DimeBucker Bridge and a Cool Rails Neck. No Middle Pickup In traditional Strats I like Fralins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Librero Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 I myself will be getting an Air Norton to pair with an Air Zone (which is on a strat right now and sounds great) for my current custom project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester700 Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 I've sworn off DiMarzio because of their aggressive legal activities. I can get what I need from Duncan and others without supporting a pushy bully... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Rosenberger Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 I've sworn off DiMarzio because of their aggressive legal activities. I can get what I need from Duncan and others without supporting a pushy bully... Well that's a Flamebait comment if I've ever seen one. Aggressive legal tactics? Since when is protecting your Patents and Trademarks a crime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jehle Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 I suppose, in my opinion, it's a matter of personnal taste. Seymor Duncan pickups have a cleaner tone to my ears and DiMarzio's have a little more gritty edge to them. There's no reason for that as far as I can tell. In the past, I've selected pickups based on what they look like more than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pex657 Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 I personally like seymor duncon. I don't want to start a new post for my simple questions so i will just ask here, it is up pickups. What's gets you a better metal tone? Two EMG HZ or EMG 81,85? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindlei Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 I personally like seymor duncon. I don't want to start a new post for my simple questions so i will just ask here, it is up pickups. What's gets you a better metal tone? Two EMG HZ or EMG 81,85? any high output pickup will give you a good metal tone really, but it's more up to the rig you're plugging into, it's got to be a high gain rig...EMG pickups are pretty flat and sterile, compared to passive pickups. many people use them because EMG active pickups have a high output, but instead i'd recommend dimarzio passive pickups instead, Evolution, X2N, Tone Zone, Air Norton, just check their site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester700 Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 I've sworn off DiMarzio because of their aggressive legal activities. I can get what I need from Duncan and others without supporting a pushy bully... Well that's a Flamebait comment if I've ever seen one. Aggressive legal tactics? Since when is protecting your Patents and Trademarks a crime? Didn't mean it to be. It was the patenting/trademarking of double cream buckers that got me; IMO that was way over the line. That was not DiMarzios design or idea; if I understand correctly, they just saw a profitable opportunity and used legal means to stifle competition. Maybe they gained lots of sales that way, but they lost mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeR Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 I remeber, years ago, I was advised by a salesclerk that Dimazio Humbuckers were better then Seymour Duncans, and Seymour duncan Single coils were better than Dimarzios. I think he meant 'better' as in correlatiing with their own discriptions. Having said that, there are a number of 'boutique' pickup winders out there now who can make a pick up at your specs for about the same price as the big names. It may be a worthwhile exercise to look into that. That said (save for the Hot Soapbar monstrosity) I have found that both companies products are great. Hope thats a help, luke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 If you like the Tonezone 7 then buy a common ToneZone for the bridge of your project. In my opinion the best 6-string bridge pu ever. Especially for Rock/Metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 If you like the Tonezone 7 then buy a common ToneZone for the bridge of your project. In my opinion the best 6-string bridge pu ever. Especially for Rock/Metal. i used to use that in the bridge of a guitar for metal.it was very nice.still prefer the 81/85 combo though. they are most times not used for the high output,but more for the clarity at high gains and low noise.much better in those regards than the Evolution, X2N, Tone Zone, Air Norton just depends on what type of metal you are talking about really.and your personal preferences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 i used to use that in the bridge of a guitar for metal.it was very nice.still prefer the 81/85 combo though. they are most times not used for the high output,but more for the clarity at high gains and low noise.much better in those regards than the Yep....the EMG is a certainly less noisy and a give a little more clarity. It's all a matter of personal taste. For me the EMG's sound to clean/sterile because of these properties and I prefer passive setups. But I know exactly what you are talking about.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 i second the opinion that if you have played dimarzios and like them, stick to them! i am building a 7 string for a client, he specifically asked for dimarzio, good player. tone zone 7 and PAF 7 im going to use. im interested to see how they play, i may be converted to them! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 I have to warn you of one thing though: I used a ToneZone 7 for my 7-string because the ToneZone 6 is my favorite PU. I have to say that I like the 6-string version much more and it sounds quite different than the 7 string version. Maybe it's the guitar though....but I doubt it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 i used 81/7s on my seven string...it's really a killer pickup for a seven string.really cleans up the low end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Interesting Wes....I was already thinking about trying that PU....Did you record anything with it that you could post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Interesting Wes....I was already thinking about trying that PU....Did you record anything with it that you could post? i have not yet...but i easily could...i will get right on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 http://fullservesite.com/westhemann/music/seven%20string.mp3 here it is...it is a little bassey because i just plugged in and went with it.but you should get the idea.a little eq tweaking would help. and forgive me because i am not familiar with the extra string yet and i forget which string i am on once or twice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Thank you VERY much for recording something just for my question. That PU sounds excellent. Exactly what I was looking for when I bought the ToneZone7....this is a way more ToneZone6-ish sound then what the ToneZone7 delivers. But I have installed the ToneZone7 in a guitar made from limba and a soft maple neck with bubinga laminates(my Infinity guitar which was GOTM in october) which may make it sound so different to my Alder Strats with ToneZone6 PU's. I simply want it to sound crunchier and brighter like your recording does. But I suspect the more mellow sound of that particular guitar is not the ToneZone7's fault. What wood did you use on that guitar? Thanks again for the recording, MK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted October 31, 2004 Report Share Posted October 31, 2004 What wood did you use on that guitar? neck is 3 piece maple/honduran mahogany/maple,pau ferro fretboard,and alder body it is a set neck as well.and the original floyd 7 also brightens up the sound a bit i think.it is the most "solid" trem i have ever used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted October 31, 2004 Report Share Posted October 31, 2004 Thanks Wes! I will use Alder again in the future and rock maple necks, no matter what all these tone freaks write about expensive woods like limba, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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