Blackstrat86 Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 I have a 82 black stratocaster...Its black and I really find black guitars boring..I love the guitars sound and neck to death and I dont wanna chunk it. Right now I have it in pieces trying to do some set up work. And Im in no HUGE hury to put it back together. I want to strip the paint. But after i strip it, what should i coat it in. Tongue oil or whatever maybe? I have like gallons off the brush on stuff you put on wood table tops and bars shlack or something like that i dont know. Its really to seal and protect from water on wood...We coated our Quilted birch Tear Drop trailer interior with it. I basicly want easy and cheap. ID rather have a dull oil type finish than a Glossy finish cheaply done with blimishs all over it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Marossy Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Depends on what the wood grain looks like under the paint. They usually paint the stuff that doesn't have the best looking grain due to imperfections in the wood or the type of wood that is made out of. Some types of wood have a rather boring grain compared to flame maple, quilted maple, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstrat86 Posted November 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Yeah thats true. Well ok, the stuff i have is spar varnish gloss paint on stuff. IF that helps any...I dont know Im thinkin strip this thing or buy a Warmoth prefinished body. I wouldnd mind being able to have a different trem and the warmoth route would insure good looks and new bridge but cost more than trying to make something of the body i have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 even plain wood is beautiful to some people...like me if you want it natural the strip it and tung oil it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstrat86 Posted November 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 (edited) What kind of tung oil and where can i get it? does it keep it from gettin dirty well? or just block moisture and such? I guess to make things easier ill just throw this in...is there any other really good places to get good finished strat bodies? Maybe a wee bit cheaper than warmoth? Also...Id really like to hear if this spar varnish stuff would be bad or good...I mean We used it to seal and finish quilted birch and it made the wood look amazing and pretty nice looking....one coat sinkin into the finish the next coat gives you a rough coat to sand and then the 3rd is ur smooth gloss coat...and you have a thick water proof coat...So im ont seeing where using it for a natural finish would be bad? Edited November 2, 2004 by Blackstrat86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Librero Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 it's been said here several times that tung oil is terrible in terms of protecting the wood from the elements compared to, say, lacquer. i'm skeptical about using your varnish, as i haven't tried it myself. but hey, if you're willing to see for yourself, why not? buying a new body would be great, but weren't you remarking about how you love your guitar's sound? that'll probably change. whether it's for the better or not, that'll depend on your ears. if you want finished strat bodies that are much cheaper, there are stuff like Mighty Mite's. they even have unfinished ones if you want to use tung oil. someone else will have to comment on the quality, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 it's been said here several times that tung oil is terrible in terms of protecting the wood from the elements compared to, say, lacquer. yes it is.but you can't have it all.either you spend extra work on a hard finish like laquer or you put an easy tung oil finish on and deal with the downsides of it buying a new body means throwing the old body away,and i thought you didn't want to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dugz Ink Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 "Spar varnish" is what I use on my canoe paddles; it's extremely durable. If the surface is properly prepped, this stuff will stay on for years, so it's definitely tough enough for a guitar. D~s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotrock Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 When I sanded the paint of one of my axes, it turned out to be plywood, which looks terrible. Just something to bear in mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstrat86 Posted November 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Well..I also want this thing to look nice...The paint is just nasty now. I dont plan to chunk this body if I bought a new one...If I put a new body on and found the sound wasnt good..I could just buy a new neck later and put it on the new body and put the old body back on. And this Is a 1982 Squire MIJ strat. They are famous for the wood they used on them so I HIGHLY doubt that there is just ugly plywood stuff under the paint. This is all just me tryin to find a way to give this guitar more of a kick without spending a fortune..If you guys have any suggestions on what you can easily do to give it a extra kick...Black is just so boring to me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotrock Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Where I used to live there was a motorbike where the bloke had painted the tank white and then put a net curtain over the top and sprayed some light blue. He took the curtain off and had the pattern on the tank and laquered over the top. Gotta say that it looked hella cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstrat86 Posted November 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Ok what i think I want to do is, Get a alder with birdseye maple top strat body from warmoth. then tung oil it. What kind of tung oil should i get and how much? do i need ot mix it with anything? if its pure oil do you just apply it, let it set fine sand it or steel whool? then apply again? untill you get to what 6 or so coats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dugz Ink Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 What kind of tung oil should i get and how much? do i need ot mix it with anything? if its pure oil do you just apply it... Here we go again... (I think I'll retreat to my peaceful woodshop.) D~s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstrat86 Posted November 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Well..Iv searched google, and got frustrated because i didnt really find anything...So ITs not like Im not looking anywhere before I ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blackstrat86 Posted November 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Ok, Ill search here on how to apply the tung oil. But I have a new question.. I have never heard of walnut bodied guitars...From what i can tell from what i have read its heavy and its tonally like alder or ash...And from what i can see and read it looks good with tung oil..What woods really look good with tung oil...I dont really want quilts and stuff...Im actually thinking just like normal alder or walnut or anything like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 walnut looks nice oiled. tonally like alder?nope.sounds creamier...way creamier you know what...get whatever makes you happy and learn to let the instrument tell you what it wants to play.you can't force a guitar to play what it doesn't want to play...it just won't sound good i don't mean that in a supernatural sort of way...i mean in a wood,pickup,string,amp combination sort of way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javacody Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 I've read a report on the FDP about a guy who has a hollow walnut strat, and he says its the best guitar he's ever owned. Why don't you start with the tone you are looking for, and choose the wood you want based on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstrat86 Posted November 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 well I want Straty sounds still..Single coils will cover a lot of that..Warmer than usual strat sounds would be a plus...Im really asking if thats what you would say walnut offers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javacody Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Walnut is supposed to be a bright wood. However, chambering would warm it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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