Fezik Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 (edited) what i mean is if i use two peices 20x14x7/8 can i just plop them on top of each other? will this affect the sound or the strength adversily? will it make it hard to work with? only one of my local lumber stores carries two inch thick stuff and thats only in poplar or maple, and i really had my heart set on a nice peice of ash.*giggles* which i can find in 7/8ths. your help is greatly appreciated. Edited May 10, 2005 by Fezik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marzocchi705 Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Would be no differant than adding a top id presume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezik Posted May 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Would be no differant than adding a top id presume. thats what i was thinking, but i want to be totally sure before i go and spend $50 on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 No You should be fine with that, I have done a ton of mulity laminate tops and bodys and I've never had a problem with sound and It never made It harder to work with You just gota know what your doing make sure your glueing surfice is good,clean and level and use good glue and clamps and you should be fine! Hears some of my mulity laminate bodys The impaler is a good one for you to look at http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ZAD...ewwork10002.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ZAD...c11043matt1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ZAD...c11045matt1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ZAD...ingguitar45.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ZAD...ldingguitar.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ZAD...RS/Dec10007.jpg And this is the razzor http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ZAD...od112333333.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ZAD...Dec29420new.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ZAD...Dec29417new.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ZAD...Dec29359new.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ZAD...Dec29352new.jpg And a few more I realy use alot of glue huh! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ZAD...c25271trade.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ZAD...c25272trade.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ZAD...an13470matt.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ZAD...S/Maythetop.jpg This is rays new guitar That Im helping with http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ZAD...Dec11082ray.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ZAD...Dec11083ray.jpg !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezik Posted May 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 cool thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mledbetter Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 just make sure the pieces are well planed, and you use a consistent pressure to clamp then when gluing. Nothing wrong with a multi laminate body. If you like the look of ash, put an ash cap over poplar or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGGR Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Personally I would extend my search a bit and try to find nice 1 3/4" piece. It's not that they are a rare find or so....... I know....no scientific proof it will sound any worse.....laminated and all.........but it's just my gut feel that makes me say........neh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 it's fine.i have done it on a beast i am building Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Laminate is not a problem. Just be sure to get those surfaces sanded true to each other so you get a good tight fit, and use plenty of pressure when clamping. That said, if you can find a thicker piece (and I think it will cost about the same) it would be much easyier and probably look a bit better. Best of luck man. Peace, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Hold on hold on...WAIT! Did you say you're going to spend $50 on those pieces? Surely you can find a nice thick piece of properly prepared ash for around the same price? Have you looked online? (I picked up a nice alder block for 20 euros, that's why) Another question-- is the wood properly dried? (don't know if that is an issue, I'm just asking). My problem is that, even though I'd know that there's not going to be any real sound difference, I'd always know that the guitar was essentially a laminate --and that would ruin the fun for me. But that's my own weirdness...you might not suffer from that. In which case, sure, as long as both pieces are properly planed, there's no reason it won't work. In fact, you can even think about doing something fancy, like adding chambers before you glue them together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Churchyard Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Surely you can find a nice thick piece of properly prepared ash for around the same price? Have you looked online? (I picked up a nice alder block for 20 euros, that's why) ← Where'd you get that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpa Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Idid it, so can you. It could actually be easier to make perfect pickup and control cavities if you don't own a router. Cut them out of each piece with a jigsaw before glueing together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezik Posted May 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Did you say you're going to spend $50 on those pieces? i said that as an exaple before i did the math, after i did the math it came out to $34, and it might be even less cause there only 7/8ths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mledbetter Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Did you say you're going to spend $50 on those pieces? i said that as an exaple before i did the math, after i did the math it came out to $34, and it might be even less cause there only 7/8ths. ← Check the auction area.. GuitarFrenzy is selling some sweet looking swamp ash. The boards you are looking at are probably hard ash, which is heavy - you might want to go with a different back wood if you do a top in hard ash for weight reasons, but it depends on the design you are building. If you are doing a top bottom laminate, you can alway shollow out some chambers to help with the weight issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Surely you can find a nice thick piece of properly prepared ash for around the same price? Have you looked online? (I picked up a nice alder block for 20 euros, that's why) ← Where'd you get that? ← Guy on ebay germany...he also had a lot of mahogany/maple blocks, I should have gotten one of those too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Rosenberger Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 I've got a '72 Les Paul Custom that's made of 4/4 Mahogany laminated with a Black veneer strip in between Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Churchyard Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Guy on ebay germany...he also had a lot of mahogany/maple blocks, I should have gotten one of those too. ← Ebay Germany that's great, could you pm me the name of the guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGGR Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 You should check with Marcel (GuitarMaestro...) where he get's his wood. He is in Germany too. And you could buy cheap router for about 35-50 Euro. I bought mine at one of these German Homedepot type stores for 35 Euro. It's wonderful machine. So $$$ is not reason not to get one. Bit's are more expensive than whole machine. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 You should really search for better local suppliers, or even mills. Sometimes people look for the obvious retailers and craft stores, but never even realize that there are other local suppliers that have much more to offer. Maybe even check with cabnet making shops and ask around to see who they are buying from. If cost is a huge factor, cutting out shipping will really help. The huge plus to finding your supply locally is not only going to be shipping but also quality. If you can hand select your lumber you can really get just what you want. If they offer a variety it will prove to be a good way to get material for future builds also. I have been very lucky to be located very close to several well stocked suppliers, but I am still finding out about even more suppliers that I did not even know where within 100 miles of my house. You just have to really check around. Peace, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allstellar Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 I've got a '72 Les Paul Custom that's made of 4/4 Mahogany laminated with a Black veneer strip in between ← I had a 75 Les Paul Deluxe that was 2 pieces o with a 3 piece maple neck..... that guitar was MORE solid than any guitar I have ever owned.. it was AWESOME... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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