Mickguard Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 In my search for a new tele neck, I've been coming across a few Warmoth Conversion necks ---so what's the deal with them? I'm assuming since they're Warmoth, they're high quality. But how does the 'conversion' work? Is it just that there's enough play in the tele saddles to allow you to intonate on the shorter scale? I'd be interested in one of these --I really like the way my Gibson plays compared to my Strat. Any thoughts? Anyone have one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 They have 24 3/4" scale conversion necks for strats/teles. I assume they shorten the fret distances or something to that extent, so it works without messing the bridge up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian d Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 The conversion neck is 0.75" (or is it 0.875" ? ) shorter than the standard warmoth neck and is slotted for the 24.75 (24.625?) scale. That way, nut to bridge is correct length for the scale without relying on the play in the saddle adjustment. Cheers, Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted July 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 The conversion neck is 0.75" (or is it 0.875" ? ) shorter than the standard warmoth neck and is slotted for the 24.75 (24.625?) scale. That way, nut to bridge is correct length for the scale without relying on the play in the saddle adjustment. ← Cool, that makes sense...sounds like it could be something I'd like then. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWishICouldShred Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 go long scale and play a baritone tele. that would be positively hideous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alarung Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 go long scale and play a baritone tele. that would be positively hideous ← Bari tele? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 That no is hideous! Gorgeous yes is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted July 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 There's something I don't quite understand about a baritone-- can you also use to play 'normal' as you would with any other six-string? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikbojerik Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Yes...compared to a regular guitar, the baritone is tuned down anywhere from C to A (usually B..) using heavier gauge strings. So if you want to play back up in E, you'd need to capo or be Capt. Barre Chord. The baritone conversion necks work the same way; they're designed so you can change the scale length without moving your bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted July 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Well, I spent all morning A-B'ing my Gibson and my Strat...I have a clear preference for the Gibson, but I'm not so certain that's because of the scale length...the Gibson is rounder and narrower than the strat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 There are many factors that make a Gibson play differently than a Strat and the scale length is only one of those. Most Gibson's have a radius of 12", which I find very comfortable chording and playing lead. SRV's main guitar was re-radiused for 12", so he must have liked that also. It just makes bends easier than the 9.5" radius that most Fenders have. The way the frets are crowned also makes a difference to how well it plays. Older Gibson's had fret jobs that left the fret flat, and wasn't recrowned after leveling. Some people don't like it, some claim that the guitar won't play intonated correctly if the frets don't have a crown. I personally love playing flat fretted guitars, they play so smooth, but there are tradeoffs to this also. They play so good that I recently read an article with PRS where he said that some of his newer models will have the same type of flat fretting as older Gibson's had, because he loved the way they played. If I'm not mistaken the 513's have this feature, but I need to reread the article to make certain. Hardtail bridges don't give like a tremelo bridge, so bending on these type of guitars are generally easier since they don't give. I know it sounds like a bunch of little things, but it's those little things that determine how a guitar will play. That being said, I like playing both (Fender, and Gibson) , but each has their own vibe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Yes...compared to a regular guitar, the baritone is tuned down anywhere from C to A (usually B..) using heavier gauge strings. So if you want to play back up in E, you'd need to capo or be Capt. Barre Chord. Or.... you just tune it as per standard.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikbojerik Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Yes...compared to a regular guitar, the baritone is tuned down anywhere from C to A (usually B..) using heavier gauge strings. So if you want to play back up in E, you'd need to capo or be Capt. Barre Chord. Or.... you just tune it as per standard.... ← ...in which case it is no longer a baritone, but a regular guitar with a longer scale length. But idch, it sounds like you want a shorter scale length, not longer, right? If you do this with a Tele, you'll notice the difference in playability more than the tone. GF also makes a good point about the radius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted July 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 But idch, it sounds like you want a shorter scale length, not longer, right? If you do this with a Tele, you'll notice the difference in playability more than the tone. GF also makes a good point about the radius. ← Yep, I'd go for the shorter scale. The ideal would be to replicate the feel and scale of my Gibson in maple (with the telel headstock; of course) My Gibson's got a nice round thing going --my strat is much flatter, doesn't fit as snugly into my hand. And I really like the Gibson's frets --this is a 65 Melody Maker, so I'm assuming they're the flattened kind. Makes for some really smooth slides. There's a Warmoth Conversion neck up on ebay right now, I'm tempted by it, except it's a rosewood board, and I was really thinking about a maple board for this guitar...we'll see what the bidding goes to.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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