seewot Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 heya.. i have a question about my 'to be' bolt-on neck on my soon to be 6-string fender squire style! well i eventually found a big enough piece of maple for my neck... problem is its not quite quarter sawn (which you guys seem to recommend).. the plank is not quite flat sawn, not quite quarter sawn.. sort of diagonal sawn.. if you kno what i mean. well i am a bit worried about this neck moving once i've got it all finished, cos i dont really kno if my maple is really stable... so anyways i've read a bit about having two truss rods in the neck.. would that help me?.. or am i just very lost? the other thing.. i could simply make the neck a bit fatter.. which i will probably do.. but will this solve my problem?.. or am i just worrying too much in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jai Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 hmmm, I think that it would be alright to use, but I would for sure use a double truss-rod and even two strips of carbon fiber neck rods. Those c.f. rods aren't expensive either. You can get them for about $10 at Stemart-MacDonald. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Rosenberger Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 definately use a doubleaction truss rod. as long as the neck isn't too thin you shouldn't run into trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seewot Posted August 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 yeo.. thanks!! so is that just simply two truss rods.. one on each sidde?.. and that carbon fibre stuff.. is it easy to put in?.. does it fit in normaly? or do i have to allow and make the neck a bit bigger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 no , thats a single truss rod, that acts both ways, up and down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jai Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 you have one truss rod in the middle of the neck like this then you would put two neck-long strips of carbon fiber rods on either side of the truss rod this stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 If it was quartersawn .. would the need for the carbon fiber rod even be necessary? Just curious as to how much tension that would add... probably won't matter using the new double action truss rods.. since you can put pressure either way.. but looks like on a regular truss rod too much resistance would keep the neck from allowing any relief at all.. but just wondering... Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jai Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 the only reason I suggested using carbon fiber is because of the wood he has and the fact that I don't know how it will act. If if we're quarter-sawn I think the only reason you would have to use carbon fiber is if you live in the extremest of weather conditions or really small neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seewot Posted August 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 ah rite o! i see what you mean now yea i'll order one of those double truss rods.. and probably the 2 carbon fibre rods as well.. just so that i wont have to worry about it so thanks everyone!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 the carbon fibre rods are basically just extra assurance IMO that your neck will never twist or warp.maybe they are not necessary in some cases but on my next project i plan on making a neck thru out of korina(my own neck this time)and i will be putting the carbon fibre rods in as well as the truss rod.i think it is just a good idea.especially with exotic woods and thin necks. just my opinion but a twisted neck is no fun.especially on a neck thru.better safe than sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsl602000 Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 seewot, Are you talking about a guitar or a bass? If that's a Tele or Strat neck you're planning to build, I wouldn't worry too much anyway.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seewot Posted August 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 yea its just a guitar... so i suppose i dont really have to worry.. could save myself a lot of effort!! but its an almost flat sawn neck.. so i might just stick those rods in anyways.. just to be safe... i wanna do it right the first time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seewot Posted August 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 yea its just a guitar... so i suppose i dont really have to worry.. could save myself a lot of effort!! but its an almost flat sawn neck.. so i might just stick those rods in anyways.. just to be safe... i wanna do it right the first time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 I wouldn't concern your self with neck reinforcement too much, most Fenders get along fine with flat sawn maple necks and single action trussrods. When using a relatively soft hardwood like mahogany or Limba (ie- Korina, see Wes's post) quarter sawn timber is pretty much essential, but with maple flat sawn is perfectly good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlexVDL Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Seewot, is it going to be a one piece neck, so no glued on fingerboard? If so, a trussrod can't do anything against neck twisting, and I have seen alot, and I mean LOTS of one piece guitar necks that has twisted because of the wood grain being wrong. I think it's not much effort to route a channel and glue in a carbon fibre rod, since it will protect your neck from twisting. Just like Wesley said; the carbon fibre rods are basically just extra assurance. Almost all necks twist a little bit, because there simply is more tension at the low-E side than the high-E side. Usually if you check your neck for straightness while the guitar is strung and fully tuned, you will see that at the low E side the neck is more hollow than at the high E side. This usually causes necks to warp or twist, so I recommend always using reinforcement in one piece necks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seewot Posted August 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 yea its got a glued on fingerbpard.. or will have... well thats what i was thinking! i seem to have a dilemma here anyways! and this is only the first problem i've hit.. this could take a while before its finished!! but if fender can get away with flat sawn then i suppose that would be easier for me. on the other hand, as alex says it probly isnt that much trouble to put in some carbon fibre. so jus however (lazy) i feel on the day i suppose well thanks anyway everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 i'm kinda torn between utra protection against twisting and trying to leave as much wood as possible. i'm going go out on a limb here and say that a good maple neck with just a small one way truss rod is going to sound better then a neck with a bigger doulble action rod, and 2 carbon rods. I mean to me that's just removing to much wood from the neck, there's hardly any wood left for the tone to travel thru.. u might as well just buy one of those all carbon necks if ur so concerened about having a perfectly flat neck 24/7, though they are a bit pricey, they're probably dead on perfect all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlexVDL Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 That's a nice story, and is correct if you look at it theoretical, but I doubt you will hear the difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 i don't know about that.all i know is the best sounding most resonant guitar i have is the one i just built with the carvin neck(with the carbon fibre rods).i think it is just the latest advancement in neck reinforcement and i totally believe in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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