Unromantic_Me Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 As i have no way of ordering this damn book from the net Make Your Own Electric Guitar by Melvyn Hiscock, but have been told how handy it would come, and im sure it would....anyone have it that fancies scanning all those lil pages and sending me them lolol Pwetty pwetty please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Where are you located? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unromantic_Me Posted September 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 In this lovely place we call England.....makes things even worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Go to a book shop or a library. My local library had a copy, and I was able to buy it in London. Any bookshop will be able to order it for you if you ask. Being in the UK is no barrier, the author is based in the UK! Anybody scanning the book for you would be commiting copyright violation, not to mention stealing from a fellow musical instrument builder - I for one would not be prepared to do it, and really hope nobody else here would. I'm all for saving money, but the way to do it is intelligence and hard work, not stealing the fruit of someone else's labours. </rant> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unromantic_Me Posted September 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Is taking the book out from the library not taking from the fruit of someone elses labour? The information you gain will not turn into royalties for the author, so isnt that exactly the same, as i would be 'borrowing' too Secondly, copywrite laws would only be violated if anybody that scans them, sold them to me...or if i sold them on...or if they were used for anything other than personal use! Third, my library has no such thing, believe me ive tried....and although you got the book in London....London is over 200 miles from me...would you travel over 200 miles for a book? So for some being in the uk is a barrier, me being one of them....so im also all for saving money, and cutting corners where possible...but im also for rewarding any artist for their hard work....but when there is no other option...i take the library 'borrowing' routine like many others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckguitarist Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 They have it here don't they? I bought mine from them...only I'm in Canada but I'd imagine they stock the same things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unromantic_Me Posted September 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 They have it online yes....i just have no method of ordering it online...or all this would have been solved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Ethics aside, the publishers of any book in the United Kingdom are required to make a copy available free of charge to the U.K library system. It is legal. Scanning the book is not - The notice on the inside cover of the book specifically states "No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical without prior permission in writing from the publishers". We could argue about this for a month, but I'd rather build guitars with my spare time, so... what exactly have you tried to get the book? -Have you asked a book shop to order it? -Have you asked you library to transfer a copy from another branch? If you've tried these, how about contacting the author? There are many ways to get your hands on the book, most of them don't require a credit card, and you should try these *before* you even consider asking someone to scan it for you. Hope I don't sound like a crabby authoritarian (I'm only 24!).. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 anyways....it is a helpful book .and it is over 200 pages so that is ALOT of scanning. it speaks mostly in general terms though.it's not going to answer your specific questions about specific guitars.but it does give a general overview on guitar building teqniques. personally i want that finishing book that drak was talking about.what was that called drak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unromantic_Me Posted September 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 I never said taking the book from the library was illegal, in your words...taking the book from the library is taking the 'fruits of someone elses labour' As he makes no profit from your knowledge gained, as he would for his labour if the book was bought (and yes i know you bought it) Yes my two local book shops which arent that huge...cant get it in because it isnt within their company stocking list....and my library cant get it in because they will only get it in from a library from the county....and none have it....so thats that As for contacting the author...seems slightly overrated...'can you help me, i cant get a copy of your book' there isnt much he can do about it So i have considered all of these *before* i considered asking anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckguitarist Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 is this arguement really nessicary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 is this arguement really nessicary? my thoughts exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Well, I'd consider mailing Mr.Hiscock. Worst thing he can do is say he can't help. What exactly is the problem with buying online? If it's that you don't have a credit card, ask somebody with one if they will pay and accept cash from you. Amazon also accept cheques by post, surely you know somebody with a chequebook? Where in the UK are you? Search google for book shops in your area which can order it... If you provide the relevant information I'm sure we can get your hands on a copy, and that's what this is about, right? Because I'm far more interested in helping you out than argueing with you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnuk Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 I live in the UK as well. I am 19 (Today! YAY!) and only have an Electron Visa card. This is without any doubt at all, practically useless. I bet there are 16 year old's with stores cards better than my Barclay's Visa card. NO WHERE takes it except Paypal and about 1% of online ordering places. They still put 'Master John Heritage' on my letters, then send me letters about 50,000 pound house mortages and other similar stuff that's really useful for someone they think is 16. Forget places like WH Smiths and all the rest, look for an expensive looking book shop, one that only sells books, not pens, pencils, coffee, tip-ex or sticky tape. Quote the ISBN number and ask if they can order it in for you. Lots of bookstores will because they buy from bulk suppliers anyway. We have one store here called Albertson's (?sp?) and they will order practically anything you want, book wise. Get the Yellow Pages out and look for some local book stores, give them a call and see if they'll order it for you. Amazon will be able to give you the book's ISBN number, it's the same no matter were it's sold, and almost everywhere will quote it. Now more importantly, everyone stop arguing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAI6 Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 I find it odd that this book can be that hard to find in the UK. The author is British, and so is the publisher. Strange......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 Not really helpful to those that live in britan, but I checked Amazon for the ISBN. Then with that information I used yahoo's yellow pages (phone directory) to locate the nearest bookstores. Then called around till I found a store that had it. I got lucky, and the nearest store had a copy in stock, so I had them hold it for me. So in all, I spent maybe 15 minutes looking and getting the book. For me 200 miles wouldn't be that far of a trip. Make a weekend out of it. Travel to london and maybe go to a theater or a museum. I'll start your search by giving you the ISBN 0953106907. The publisher's address is NBS Basingstoke Hampshire RG21 5YX United Kingdom You might try writing or calling the publisher, they might do a cash on delivery type purchase directly from their warehouse. William Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Bell Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 I never said taking the book from the library was illegal, in your words...taking the book from the library is taking the 'fruits of someone elses labour' As he makes no profit from your knowledge gained, as he would for his labour if the book was bought (and yes i know you bought it) UK libraries do pay the authors every time a book is taken out. My mum writes gardening books and periodically gets royalty cheques from the UK library service. The most a book can make is £6000, otherwise popular authors would bankrupt the library. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 I couldn't get my copy at first...because the book shop wouldn't order it in! at the time I couldn't order it online ethier so I had to wait 5 months before I persuaed them to order it in! They wouldn't order it because they would of had to irder bout 5 copys and they said that it wouldn't sell! hu, the cheek of it all, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowheadguitars Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 There are a number of places you can get it in the UK - Pincotts (0845 345 5951) used to sell it, not sure if they still do. Bob Pearman Books (01553 810673) should have it too. Failing that get in touch with me and I'll source you a copy. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryeisnotcool2 Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 unless you have noooooo money you can get the book! jeez after all this fuss and argueing it would be easier to learn by trial and error! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Fruit Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 personally i want that finishing book that drak was talking about.what was that called drak? Yeah, me too. come on Drak, name the book Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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