Ford Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Hey, I was looking at the entries September guitar of the month contest, and really liked the finish on francelj's second guitar. I think he said it was just oil on flamed maple. Is that just tung oil on the raw maple, is it stained, filled, dyed...? eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Posted October 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Oh, and how do you do the natural binding? I think I remember seeing a tutorial about that somewhere, but I lost it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 the binding part was probably just taped off during staining then removed for clear coating... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Posted October 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Thats right... I remember now, thanks! So so so, francelj, or anyone, what was used on that lovely flame to give it that particular look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveq Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 I love that guitar! It has a subtle, earthy look - very very cool! Is that bridge pickup right up against the bridge? Who cares, it looks awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DividedByJames Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Hey thats a nice looking geetar! I think you basically answered your question about whether or not it is dyed. I mean if it has a natural binding, then it has to be stained to have that separation effect. Plus we all know that maple is very white/tanish, and thats more of a black-brown color. I think he stained it, and then put tung oil over the entire body after the staining was dry. But I've never Stained anything and then tung oiled it so I dunno if that would even work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DividedByJames Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 ...yeah whats up with the pickup rings being so close to the bridge? Does that affect the play of the tremolo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Posted October 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 I gotta find out what stain he used... It also looks like the pickups and trem are brown, does anybody else see that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulNeeds Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 This may give you a clue on how to go about it... You may need to jump from step 7 to 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Posted October 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Ah, that may be it then. Will using the black stain be too much for this particular finish you think? Or should I look for a brown... Hey, also, when useing Tung Oil, do you need to use a filler? I also assume that you can oil over a stain. Right now I'm thinking of a basswood body with a flamed maple top (I've heard this lends to a even tone, good for many styles), and a maple, mohogany laminate neck. I know bass wood is soft, and a hard finish is reccomended, but it may not matter as it will only be visible on the back... I dunno... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulNeeds Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 I believe it's ok with anniline (water-based) dyes. As for oil-based, no idea, sorry. I wouldn't have thought filling would be necessarry unless you have some major pitting. With the powdered annilines you can mix the colour you want, so you could get a very dark brown, which I think would look wicked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowheadguitars Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 you an also mix the stain with the oil and apply it like that if you like - I've mixed black stain with Danish Oil - which is based on tung oil - without any problems Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Posted October 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 Neat idea! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 no need to fill the grain when tung oiling.try tru oil,other members say it is more protection from dents and scratches,but applies the same way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Posted October 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 Thanks wes, I'll look into that as well. Is there a particular place that is good to buy that from? Incidentially, one of the last bands I was in had a song called "Dont sleep with your neighbors goat" ... the stuff we came up with at 3 am... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 To find it locally (Tru-Oil), most all gun shops will carry it, as well as any big superstores that have a gun section. It is primarily used to coat and protect gunstocks. Use lots of really thin coats, not a few thick coats. PS, I do a lot of 'stain black and sand back' finishes, that guitar doesn't look to me like black was used, just brown. There 'is' a powdered anilyne stain made by Lockwood called silver-grey that reminds me of that look, the one above looks more brown tho. I think PRS used the silver-grey as a base and shaded the sides black, I think that was one of their finishes years ago, but I'm no PRS expert... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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