jacob Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 hey everyone, i have a question (duh), how do i go about the swirl technique? i know the whole water prep with the borax and all, but im talking about, how do i actually dip my object that is to be swirled? is it done fast or slow? basicly, i need to know anything and everything outside of the swirl paint article on here. why you may ask? i am going to be finishing a few sculptures and my strat with this swirl paint job, im going for a good psychedelic feel to it. so what are your thoughts, im sure there are many thanks in advance, Jacob Triffo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob Posted February 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 ok, so nobody has any idea on how to do a swirl? because ive done numerous searches and have only came up with a little knowledge outside of what i had. for instance what type of base coat should i use? would rustoliem rattle can work? after its primed of course? and will the oil paints stick to the acrylic im using for the sculptures? seriouslty folks, any help/insight/thoughts will be helpful at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
our E Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 Hi Jacob, can you post a link to a picture of the swirl effect your trying to achieve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiggz Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 (edited) i did one on an rg i was refinishing, still havent completely finished that one there is an old thread on it somwhere here easiest way i have found is have the paint on the waters surface and push it through, then clear paint away with newspaper and remove guitar, but make sure the guitar is very well sealed i mean VERY well sealed ie drip wax/push blutac into all screw holes and make sure your base coat is thick as if ya dont clear the paint away when ya pull it out it adds another layer to it and gets more complex, which look a bit crap ill dig up my thread with pics of said rg in it http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.ph...63&hl=swirl there ya go edited for spelling Edited February 11, 2007 by where's the beef??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
our E Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 I seem to remember seeing a kit for doing this sort of thing at our local craft supply store. It was called marbling or marblizing or something like that. I had some panels done a long time ago by a guy who painted wood to look like marble. He started with a dark blue basecoat then painted veins into it using oil based paint, applied with the tip of a feather, next he flicked white spirit all over it and smudged it all about using a large very soft badger hair brush. the whole thing was then coated in varnish after a couple of days drying time. All the time he was painting he had a pint of beer in his left hand, said it was to balance out the weight of the feather ! all I know is that after doing 8- 8' x 4' panels the effect became much more random Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeUK Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 I dont know if youve already seen it, but there's a swirl technique in the tutorials section.. with pics. which is allways helpful. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob Posted February 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 ok, thanks alot everyone, i did see the tutorial in the tutorials section, thats what inspired me in the first place. anyways, if i get this to work right, i'll post some before and after pics. i have a good feeling about this one ~jacob t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 ok, so i tried some test pieces today and i had problems, the paint seemed to just run right off the piece when i pulled it out of the water, so it prettymuch destroyed the swirl i was just using standard rustoliem oil paint, and i put the maximum amount of borax in the water that would fit, and the paint spead out pretty quickly when i dropped it in. i didnt let the water set after i mixed the borax in, im not sure if that screwed anything, and i didnt use warm water, and the surface i was applying the swirl to wasnt flat or very smooth. so, does anyone know what went wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiggz Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 surface prep on the test peices? although a few test peices i did were just bare wood..... maybe the paint is just crap, spend 3 bucks or so and try some tamia (sp?) model paint, that goes alright if that doesnt work i dunno what will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) yea, i used black rustoliem spraypaint as a base, and i didnt really do much surface prep, no sanding really, and those oil paints are pretty cheap so maybe thats the problem... i was thinking of just getting some good art grade stuff and trying that, i'll get it eventually i suppose, and my school's buying all the supplies so thats a plus. Edited February 14, 2007 by jacob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneshowmaster Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 humbrol enamel paints...try them and let me know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fookgub Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 yea, i used black rustoliem spraypaint as a base, and i didnt really do much surface prep, no sanding really, and those oil paints are pretty cheap so maybe thats the problem... Maybe the oil paint won't stick to the smooth surface of your spray paint. Did you try scuff sanding the paint at about 220 grit before dipping it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob Posted February 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 yea, see, thats the weird thing, the surface of it was actually really rough, its how the nylon (they're made with nylon stockings as a cover over a wire sculpture) reacted to the paint on it, and the weird part is the oil paint only kept the marbleized look on the really smooth parts, it was on the rough bits where it screwed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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