Ferdinand_Oconner Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 (edited) I just finished building my first guitar and im starting on my second i have a few ideas but i dont know if i will run into any problems.... First im want to sink a wireless kit into a pocket on my guitar so the guitar itself would not have an output jack just a simple on off switch but i dont know if a wireless setup will transmit a signal through the guitars body....' second i want to use some old school knobs from an old stereo the roller kind where its like a wheel but only alittle bit shows through the body and but i dont know where i can find these other than on radios....will radio controlls work? if any one could advise me on this i would be very appriciative....thank you Edited May 23, 2007 by Ferdinand_Oconner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihocky2 Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 I am not sure about the type of knobs you are talking about, pictures would help. As for the wireless, I am not sure how well it would still transmit, but you could cut the cavity so the wireless pack would fit in nice and snug with maybe some type of retaining ring, but almost all of one of the sides would still be exposed to the back. Then just your body is in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand_Oconner Posted May 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 here is the style knobs im thinking about [img=http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z224/ferdinand_oconner/dials.jpg] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbanezFreak666 Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 for the wireless system it would probs be best to have the ariel come out of the guitar. and those you could rip out a sterio if they are the right values.. otherwise i dunno.. try an electrical retailer like www.maplins.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyHetfield Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 I think it was Schecter guitars.... not 100% sure, that used a similar roller knob scheme on some of their older guitars, try checking them out and it might give u more ideas?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psw Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 They use roller knobs in fender's jazz master for the secondary tone/volume circuit on the upper control plate. A stereo is unlikely to have the rignt values but you might be able to use or adapt the wheels to turn a conventional pot mounted on it's side. Otherwise, make your own by adapting a normal oversized knob and make a bracket to mount it sideways in the control cavity...for an oversized look. I like the idea of an internal wireless system, however it is now dedicated to one guitar, which could be a hassle. I really do think that the ariel will need to be exposed... good luck, pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand_Oconner Posted May 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 (edited) thanks for all the advice i really appriciate it.... i will have to look into it a little more but i think it will turn out like i have planned in my head(hopefully).... the controls im looking for are thumbwheel switches but i cant seem to find them in the right values if any one knows where i can find them or has someone who knows please tell me about it thank you everyone Edited May 24, 2007 by Ferdinand_Oconner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafty Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 You'll probably just have to use regular pots mounted sideways with some custom knobs. Mouser Electronics has just about anything you'd need to make it work. Also, you don't need to have the aerial outside of the guitar to make the wireless work well. Just make sure it's not stuck in a shielded cavity! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biliousfrog Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 I believe that Jazz guitars often have similar knobs concealed under the pickguard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba Pa Ti Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 (edited) yeah arnt they selector knobs though for a rotary switch ? radio knobs usually work by pullys (the tuner anyway) theres a complicated load of string inside to tune the radio (this make its more precise compared to a direct connection, i think its somthing around a 3:1 ratio, so you turn the tuner 3 times and it only moves once) Edited May 24, 2007 by Samba Pa Ti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihocky2 Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 That would be for the tuner. Think of a Walkman or Discman with the volume control. That is what he is talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand_Oconner Posted May 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 i think im just going to turn a regular pot on its side cut the shaft short and create a custom wheel that will protrude from the body.... should work if any one sees any problems with this let me know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanthus Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 I was brainstorming this earlier, the wireless guitar thing. I think that if someone was talented enough, they could route a space inside the guitar body and strip all the electronics from the wireless transmitter. I bet you could use a 9v battery like an active system and hook up the transmitter to it, and hardwire the electronics of the transmitter to the guitar. Yes, the antenna would have to be outside of the body, perhaps where the output jack originally was (key if this was a retrofitting). The only downside I see to the project is that one would have to have a different transmitter/channel for each guitar, which would be pretty expensive. But if I could have a guitar that all I had to do was flick a miniswitch and start jamming wireless, I think I might cry. Oh yes, and also, you would only be able to play the guitar through your setup. Not like you can bring the guitar over someone's house and play through their system. *brainstorms* I want to try it, but I don't want to risk ****ing up a $150 wireless system in the name of experimentation. I ain't an electronics guy in the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba Pa Ti Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 build an fm transmitter and put that in... dont even need an amp then because it will go thru the hifi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand_Oconner Posted May 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 thanks again ive got some great feedback and have com up with a new plan.... im am going to use both a wireless kit and a fm transmiter wire them together using the same anntena and have a three way troggle switch (fm transmiter/off/wireless) and sink all of it into a pocket in the body.... i think i can wrap the antenna wires around the stud screw for the stapbutton and it should be enough to transmit for about 30ft... again if any one can forsee any problems let me know! thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_labb Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 it will work inside the guitar, when the guitar is between the antenna and the reciever the thing still works (or atleast it should) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanthus Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 You mention fm transmitter and the first thing that pops into my head is that stupid iTrip attachment for the iPod. I'm sure there are much better transmitters out there, but even though I generally laud Apple for its product quality, the transmitter in the iTrip isn't fantastic. I think, if only for safety's sake, I'd stick with the wireless systems made for instruments over any old system. I know the two are very similar, but I guess it's just me. Also, what would be the benefit of having both a guitar wireless system AND an FM transmitter in the same guitar? I do see the benefit of having a wireless system and a functioning jack, but not all 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba Pa Ti Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 the only reason i can think of to use a itrip type transmitter is to go into a tapedeck(or pc/minidisk whatever) and record, just a novelty, although a mic would sound better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand_Oconner Posted May 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 yeah the idea really came about when me and some friends were out in the school parking lot messing around playing and i thought it would be cool to be able to hook up to my trucks stereo and play through my sound system.... as well as i just want a really clean guitar no visible knobs and switches just clean and simple(even though the setup will be any thing but simple) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand_Oconner Posted June 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 out of cuiosity how strong of and fm transmitter should i use to transmitt out of the guitar and be able to get about 30 ft of play between myself and the stereo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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