Lotza_Noize Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 I have a JEM body made of Swamp Ash. And I need the paint stripped and then swirled. I was thinking a mainly dark brown (to match the rosewood fretboard), white (little streaks), metallic copper and metallic yellow gold swirl. I want the body and head stock to look like marble stone. Can anyone do this for me and do a good job? And quote me a cost. You can message me the price if you not want the world to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotza_Noize Posted June 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Is a metallic swirl really that difficult? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biliousfrog Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 I can't offer any advice I'm afraid but I hope that you get it done because it sounds like a really nice colour combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotza_Noize Posted June 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 I can't offer any advice I'm afraid but I hope that you get it done because it sounds like a really nice colour combo. I would hope so. If only I could find someone out there that can do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 I can't see why it wouldn't be possible, but i'd be concerned about the metallic flake seperating from the paint. Definitely cool if you can find somebody who has the technique down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotza_Noize Posted June 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 I can't see why it wouldn't be possible, but I'd be concerned about the metallic flake separating from the paint. Definitely cool if you can find somebody who has the technique down. Well if the flake was in the paint and then the lacquer clear coat was on top of the paint. Why would the flake separate from the paint? Or would it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotza_Noize Posted June 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Who here knows how to swirl colors on a guitar body? Couldn't you use a clear as one of the colors of the swirl? Sounds logical to me. What do you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotza_Noize Posted June 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 I can't see why it wouldn't be possible, but I'd be concerned about the metallic flake separating from the paint. Definitely cool if you can find somebody who has the technique down. Oh do you mean the flake separating from the color itself before it drys. Well I've got small kids and they use this flake glue type pen **** (MY GOD it gets all over everything ). Couldn't it be done in the same kind of way. What if the color had a slight liquid adhesive added to it. then the flake added to the color/adhesive as one of the colors. I'm not asking for a lot of flakes in the paint. I just want a "shimmer" effect to it. Like a marble counter top you might see at Lowe's or Home Depot. Next time you are there check out what I mean. The black and gold marble counter tops have streaks of gold "shimmer" to them. OMG would that look cool as a guitar body. YES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppelinchld Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 (edited) you might try doing a simple swirl with not necesarily "metallic colors" but bright colors that go well with watever metallics you want to use the try marbelizing over that after the swirl has been laquered. by marbelizing i mean something similar to this http://www.edromanguitars.com/newsite/cust...ages/rosb22.jpg Edited June 19, 2007 by zeppelinchld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotza_Noize Posted June 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 you might try doing a simple swirl with not necessarily "metallic colors" but bright colors that go well with whatever metallics you want to use the try marbleizing over that after the swirl has been lacquered. by marbleizing i mean something similar to this http://www.edromanguitars.com/newsite/cust...ages/rosb22.jpg OMG that's what I'm talking about! Look at that! It looks just like marble. OOH SWEET! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotza_Noize Posted June 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 This is what I'm talking about. Except not green. Dark Brown and copper. Other than Ed Roman, can anyone else do this one? I called Ed and was quoted ~$1500 to do the job. NO Funking way am I interested in spending $1500 for a paint job. WOW!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppelinchld Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 its expensive because its not as simple as doing a swirl, cuz i think they use some magical machine. i read somewhere, mayb on ed's site that you can do it with cottonballs and razors and other things to get the same effect. is this more of what u want or do u like the ones on eds site more? http://www.otheroom.com/namm01/images/guitars/rosco http://www.otheroom.com/namm01/images/guit...scoe2.jpge1.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba Pa Ti Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 its expensive because its not as simple as doing a swirl, cuz i think they use some magical machine. i read somewhere, mayb on ed's site that you can do it with cottonballs and razors and other things to get the same effect. is this more of what u want or do u like the ones on eds site more? http://www.otheroom.com/namm01/images/guitars/rosco http://www.otheroom.com/namm01/images/guit...scoe2.jpge1.jpg cant get those links to work but theres 1 here. http://www.otheroom.com/namm01/images/guitars/roscoe1.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Holy heck. 1500 smackers?? You can probably find hundreds of faux-marble techniques on teh intarwebs. To be honest, I think marble looks narsty, though my first attempt at a refinish (the guitar got stolen... I doubt for the paint job!) I did a dark green faux marble. Cost about $15, but back then I didn't realize that I was using completely inappropriate paint (it was like, hobby paint in a faux marble kit... I was a kid at the time. ). Even using correct paints, you can probably do what you want to do for about 10% of what Ed wants to charge you. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotza_Noize Posted June 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 its expensive because its not as simple as doing a swirl, cuz i think they use some magical machine. i read somewhere, mayb on ed's site that you can do it with cottonballs and razors and other things to get the same effect. is this more of what u want or do u like the ones on eds site more? http://www.otheroom.com/namm01/images/guitars/rosco http://www.otheroom.com/namm01/images/guit...scoe2.jpge1.jpg cant get those links to work but theres 1 here. http://www.otheroom.com/namm01/images/guitars/roscoe1.jpg Kinda. This looks a little more like granite. Not quite what I'm looking for. Ed's is what I'm talking about. But Ed's custom shop is gone. Ed's has lost there lease on the building. At least that's what I heard from some employee at Ed's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonsg26 Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 i read ( i think on eds) that the marble finish was outsourced to a company that used a machine and they refuse to do guitars now because of how expensive the machine is they say that guitars dont draw in enough money i could be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biliousfrog Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Marbling has been done for hundreds of years without the aid of machines although it would still be quite a time consuming & expensive thing to commission. How to: http://www.mikemacneil.com/faux%20finish%20techniques.shtml Also search for "faux marble" in google Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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