Ghwar Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Hey guys, it's me.. again. I've bought a brand new Epiphone Les Paul (Zakk wylde model) and MAN does it scream. i would highly suggest it. BUT. i don't know if this is my fault or what.. but it was all great and i was having a great time with my new axe until i went to change the stock strings. I got about 2 turns into putting the new low E on when the tuner got very stiff and grindy, and the tuning post refused to move afterwards, even when turning the key like a madman.. so, I then noticed that the tuning "post" can just pull out even if just turning the guitar at a slight angle, but on all the other strings they're stuck in there firmly. i've tried everything, screwing it back in, etc. it looks like it scres onto a little post in there but i can't tell. sometimes if i place it in there just right and turn the key, it turns a few millimeters, but it's so loose it just pops out again or stops turning after just a turn or so. is this broken, or do i just need to put it back together in some way i can't figure out? by the way they're grover rotomatics if it helps thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 (edited) cant do anything without pics Edited July 8, 2007 by killemall8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghwar Posted July 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 cant do anything without pics seriously? I don't think I can take a picture of the inside of the tuner that would show any detail, if you really think it'll help, i'll try though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonsg26 Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 i had a similar problem on my 60s teisco The guy aid something about the gears not lyning up im not sure if its the same as yours though. The tech at my local shop fixed it for me when he was doing a setup. If its the same problem as yours ill ask him how he did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Is the tuner button slipping on the shaft? Sorry if this sounds like an obvious thing, but when obvious things are overlooked you tend to blame crazy stuff instead, like Gremlins or solar winds. This happened on my Washburn acoustic when I changed to ebony buttons from stock, and the metal insert joining the button to the shaft started slipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acousticraft Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 (edited) Grovers are lifetime guaranteed so get it replaced at the shop you bought it and don't settle for anything less. I have Grover Rotomatics on my latest build and haven't had problems but do notice the tuners have a lot of play (backlash) in them. Edited July 9, 2007 by Acousticraft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaac Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 I had a similar problem on my acoustic. The gears werent exact enough, so whenever i tuned, the head would chew the gear on the shaft a little. Eventually it just became impossible to tune 2 of the strings. I ended up just getting a new set, for only $17, and they work fine. It was a little nicer to figure out on the acoustic though, due to the lack of covers on the gears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 the tuner are obviously crap either turn it in for warranty replacement or go to a repairer and get some schallers or grovers fitted guyatones are pretty good too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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