sxcbst Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 I have a marshall and a few boss distortion pedals. I wana know if the top players use only a distortion pedal or just their amp overdrive or BOTH? I was just wondering because any top end amps are expensive just to use the clean channel and a boss distortion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Sorbera Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 I have a 2 watt single 6v6 tube amp that I built. It only has one channel, so I set it to have very slight breakup and use a modded boss overdrive with the level set high, and the drive set low, to drive the front end of the amp. With multichannel amps it's possible to not use pedals, but it's nice to have different distortion tones to work with even if your amps drive channel sounds good. So thats why people with very expensive amps can still use pedals for overdrive/distortion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prs man Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 amp overdrive works best for me. there are times when I just turn the amp up and let it rip. when you want it clean turn the volume on the guitar down. that is the best set up for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sxcbst Posted August 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 I have a 2 watt single 6v6 tube amp that I built. It only has one channel, so I set it to have very slight breakup and use a modded boss overdrive with the level set high, and the drive set low, to drive the front end of the amp. With multichannel amps it's possible to not use pedals, but it's nice to have different distortion tones to work with even if your amps drive channel sounds good. So thats why people with very expensive amps can still use pedals for overdrive/distortion. Cheers yeh i get you, because take zakk wylde ,he has his own custom marshall amp yet uses the sd1, so what your sayin is he might use either on different occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Amp. There's really nothing quite like the tone of a tube amp breaking up in all sorts of tasty ways. Of course, since I have a daftly tweakable dual channel amp (Rivera TBR), that's an extra reason to use it. I haven't used the one distortion pedal I have (metal zone) in years.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksound Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 For regular gigs I use pedals. We play a big variety of music, and I want my amp's clean tone untouched. That's why I have 3 different overdrive/distortion pedals on my board. That said, for small gigs and jams I use a smaller amp set just to the point of breaking up with the guitar's volume knob for control, and a pedal for solos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 When playing in a band with two guitars,a high gain amp(like an engl,mesa,peavey jsx,etc)has plenty of gain,because the two guitars combined kind of in effect double the perception of gain...but by myself in my room I like a bit more gain... As far as "top players" go,everybody is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonsg26 Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 i guess zakk actually uses his pedal in front of his already overdriven amp it all depends on your taste though lately ive been just plug n play because it gets annoying having to many things to push but for awhile i used a digitech hotrod to get a real tight treble sound out of my peaveys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikhailgtrski Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 I crank up the amp and use the guitar volume to clean it up - no channel switching. Someday I might try a clean boost to goose the front end a bit, but it's still tube amp distortion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeVictim Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 I use my bass amp. I don't have anything else right now. I am currently using an Electro Harmonix double muff. I really like the added low end my bass amp adds. How metal is it when you are palm muting and your house starts shaking?!? Well, the 2x muff is just on loan right now until I can get my Digitech rp50. Then, it goes back to it's owner. I hope to get the Carvin vintage series Nomad 1-12". They look sweet for the price. Prob won't use the digitech for distortion after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotgoalie11565 Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 I don't have an overdrive pedal at the moment, so I just go with what's in my amp. BTW, it's a Marshall MG 10 CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 I really like the added low end my bass amp adds. How metal is it when you are palm muting and your house starts shaking?!? That's fine as long as you are playing slow...but all that bass turns to mush when you are playing actual intricate metal. but then too,all of my metal amps have more than enough bass without resorting to speakers voiced to bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeVictim Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Intricate...octave pull downs (i think is the tech term) is about as technical as my playing gets except for this one solo I have which borrows a couple notes from Metalica. I'm a punk rocker at heart. (not this commercial radio bull**** punk either) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Well,considering that music is only an expression of one's inner self anyway,I guess amps and equipment don't make that much difference as long as they suit the individual. I'm a little princess about my amps and guitars though...I wish I wasn't...I remember my first guitar was a plywood "applause" superstrat...bought used at a pawn shop...it had a crappy "trem" that would not stay in tune and I had to fight it into submission to play it...but I think I liked that guitar better than any I have had since then. funny what you'll develop an affinity with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeVictim Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 It's not too mushy, a little weak in the bass when I am not palm muting... I am about to get the poor man's FX unit, the digitech rp50 (just waiting on shipping from IL to CO). I read that you can just plug into a power amp and use the EQ on the pedal for the best tone. My bass amp (peavey nitrobass), has a "power in", so I can use it as a power amp. Anyone else got a 300watt guitar amp?!? One day, I will have a real tube guitar amp... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Anyone else got a 300watt guitar amp Yes I do...350 watt marshall mode 4.but in effect it is no louder than my 100 watt engl.don't let the numbers fool you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodBlessTexas Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 I have a marshall and a few boss distortion pedals. I wana know if the top players use only a distortion pedal or just their amp overdrive or BOTH? I was just wondering because any top end amps are expensive just to use the clean channel and a boss distortion. Which genre? A lot of the modern medal players are using overdrive pedals, usually Tubescreamer based, in front of their amp's gain stages. Usually the drive is set to 0, with the Tone set at noon and the gain set to noon or higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeVictim Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Anyone else got a 300watt guitar amp Yes I do...350 watt marshall mode 4.but in effect it is no louder than my 100 watt engl.don't let the numbers fool you. My advantage is that my speakers are more efficient than your average guitar speaker. I got 102db sensitivity, a normal guitar speaker doesn't usually top 90db. For every 3db, the sound is twice as loud. Even though you got 50 more watts on me, chances are my amp is still louder. I guess it depends on what kind of cab/speakers you are using. I can't get past 9 o'clock in my basement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeVictim Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Oh yeah, I got my RP50 yesterday. I was in my dungeon all night last night jamming and trying to make a perfect distortion tone (not an easy task). Time to send the double muff back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 My advantage is that my speakers are more efficient than your average guitar speaker. I got 102db sensitivity, a normal guitar speaker doesn't usually top 90db. For every 3db, the sound is twice as loud. Even though you got 50 more watts on me, chances are my amp is still louder. I guess it depends on what kind of cab/speakers you are using. I can't get past 9 o'clock in my basement. in my experience bass amps are never as loud as their same wattage counterparts,which is why the higher wattage is needed. just for a point of reference...putting my 100 watt engl stack on 3 on the master volumme,with the channel volume at about 5,puts out about 90 to 100 db if I put my master volume at 9 o'clock with the channel volume cranked,it would be extremely painful and would permanently damage hearing(mine is already damaged,so I consistently play at around 90db) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeVictim Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 I am no expert just to clear that up. I always thought the reason that a bass amp needs more power is because of the frequency range a bass produces. It needs all that power to produce that freq at the higher volume. That's why in a club with a good PA, The 18" subs always have their own power amp. (usually about 1000 watts per 18) It takes a lot of power to move those big cones back and forth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMan686 Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I always like to keep it as simple as possible. Amp to guitar, little reverb. I like an amp with enough balls to go from sweet and clean to overwhelming brutality! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The royal consort Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 (edited) If you want to look at guitar rigs of the rich and famous take a look at http://www.guitargeek.com/ It seems to have stoped being updated in 2004 but does give a good idea of who is getting what sound how. PS I use a fender 75 as a result overdriving it sounds terrible.... I have a ProCo Rat and hopefully a Big Muff by the end of the year (but the Colorsound Tone Bender is really nice as well... Hmmm) Edited August 16, 2007 by The royal consort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godisasniper Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 I used to use a Danelectro pedal, awful little thing. Now, I use a Pocket POD, and that thing is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaam Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Off topic but sort of about pedals: pedals to the metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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