icetrey Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I've gotten through the first stage of refinishing my guitar but last time the order I went was 1) Wood 2) Behlen Vinyl Sealer 3) Behlen Nitro Lacquer (Color) 4) Behlen Nitro Lacquer (Clear) I wasn't satisfied with how the vinyl sealer filled the grains so I've already sprayed and sanded smooth some Deft Sanding Sealer. Do I still need to use the Vinyl Sealer before doing the Behlen color coats or have I already messed up and need to remove the Deft because that would be mixing brands and I know sometimes that can be a bad thing? Thanks in advance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icetrey Posted September 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Sorry. I accidentally posted the same question twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Sanding sealer is not grain filler, merely a heavier coat of finish that provides a good base for your nitro. You need to grain fill seperately, with a grain filler of your choice, preferably/usually before the sanding sealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icetrey Posted September 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Let me explain my post a lil better. Last guitar I painted was: 1) Bare Wood 2) Vinyl Sealer 3) Nitro (Color) 4) Nitro (Clear) Since I didn't like the way that worked out this time I was planning on doing: 1) Bare Wood 2) Deft Sanding Sealer 3) Behlen Vinyl Sealer 4) Nitro (Color) 5) Nitro (Clear) I understand what you're saying and I realize it's not a grain filler but I guess I got lucky cause the guitar is alder and doesn't have a lot of grain or is not as porous as others (I think I'm wording that right). But the Deft sealer did what I needed it to and left a smooth surface with no grains showing. Do you think I should also use the Vinyl Sealer or skip step 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Skip step three. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdshirtman Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I'm going to chime in here and advise against any deft products. Use the Behlen sanding sealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestorationAD Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 +1 and +1 Skip step three and skip Deft. Use Behlen. Also the Behlens vinyl sealer really does not play very nice with the Behlens nitro even though they say it does. You have to scuff it really well before applying any Nitro on top. I think of Vinyl Sealer as a last resort to contain things that might bleed or leach out later. Not necessary on a brand new build... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icetrey Posted September 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Ok. Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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