Original Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Nice guitars Eddie. I like your hardware choice on all of them. I bet that they're great players. I don't trust epoxy. I think it creeps on stress joints. I use Original Titebond, on almost everything. Whatever you use, make sure it's fresh. Don't risk using adhesives that aren't at their best. Your clamp times seem pretty long. I'll use titebond on an acoustic neck reset, and string the guitar the next day. 6-8 hours clamp time is enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted May 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Thanks mate! yeah you just can´t use any epoxy. I had this neck i made, 5 pieces maple and purpleheart and i used 5 minutes epoxy to glue the laminates. It looked wonderful. Until i glued the fretboard. The clamp pressure broke the epoxy joints, and my laminated neck looked like a book... Then i made another neck using 2 ton epoxy. Now, that thing is rock hard. I love it. But here in Spain they only sell crap epoxy, so i've already ordered Titebond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psikoT Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 But here in Spain they only sell crap epoxy ... and expensive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 Hijack all you want. You only know that we'll do the same in your threads! X'D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted May 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) hehehe, good! Right now i am about to start the construction of a neck thru body Tele, laminated neck of maple and african mahogany with mahogany wings and ebony fretboard Then i will build 2 or 3 pointy guitars Edited May 24, 2013 by eddiewarlock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted May 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 So, they did a good job at the wood shop, and the neck laminates are glued with Titebond. No visible glue lines here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Certainly looks the part. Are you recessing the bridge or cutting a neck angle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted May 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Cutting a neck angle. It's a guitar i'm building for a guitar forum. It will have a raised center like a Firebird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted June 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 So, the nice guys from the venezuelan nazi onal guard drilled more holes in my guitars. I think you've seen the camo warlock they drilled holes to. Now they did it to these guitar bodies i sent to Spain, as i have moved there, because i am in a black list for being against Chavez and it's pathetic excuse for a goverment. They enter my ID number and they know i am against them. To make international shipments i must give the post office a copy of my ID Card. So that's why they do this. And to think i must hear everyday here in Spain idiots telling me how great Chavez was, and how wonderful it's what he did. I hate you all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eddiewarlock Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 So, i moved on to the 3 piece maple neck...after laminating the maple/mahogany/maple which was perfect, i get this: Glue lines... If i had glued this with epoxy it wouldn't bother me, but since i used Titebond, i come here and ask advice: What should i do? Would i be ok with these glue lines? the guitar will be painted a solid color... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Considering we are looking at a close up, those will be fine. They will probably look even smaller when you get it shaped. FWIW, I have a neighboring family that is from your home country. They share your opinion of your home government as well. No stories about ruined guitar bodies though. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Yeah i guess the glue lines are OK i guess, but considering i had perfect joint lines in the previous guitar, this is frustrating. My main concerns are glue swelling/creeping and neck unstability once it's stringed Most venezuelan in other countries have had to leave because of the seggregation, discrimination and exclusion lists that virtually leaves you no opportunities or options there. The brain draught is impressive, i'd say 99% of venezuelans in other countries have university degrees. I am a dentist with a master's degree in endodontics myself... Edited June 5, 2013 by eddiewarlock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Glue swelling usually occurs when the wood is in a captured joint like a neck pocket. The wood expands because it absorbed moisture, but since it has no place to go the expansion squeezes the glue out. Since this is not in that situation, and since it is going to be painted and therefore much less likely to exchange moisture, you should still be okay. On the other hand, if it is going to bother you no matter what you do....and that happens to all of us....redo it. There is no point continuing a build if you are still going to hate it when it's done. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) yeah i keep going back and forth about re doing it...which sucks. The wood shop where i take my timber to be cut, jointed and surface are greedy mofos... i know that once i carve the neck the glue lines will be almost invisible...but still don't know what to do. Some pieces curved towards once side sharply, so i didn't use that one piece, but makes me wonder if a one piece neck will do that... Edited June 5, 2013 by eddiewarlock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazygtr Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 For better results I would advise the jointer, a planer can leave some snipe at the ends of your stock making it difficult to get a nice seamless joint at these points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Yup, i agree about the snipe at the ends...but if the jointed is not well set up, or has dull blades as i suspect the one they have is it won't be good either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Tomorrow i'll plane the piece and see what's up and what decision should i take... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Set up a make shift shooting board and clean up the planed or jointed surface before you glue it up and you'll be okay going either way. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 so do you think i should start over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 If it were me, I would get the neck shaped and see how it looks. I do not think you will have any structural issues from what I am seeing. And I bet the lines will be pretty invisible. But that's me. If the way it looks is going to bug you forever, then start over and make one you are happy with. I was just saying if you do start over, you can fix any minor imperfections from the plane or jointer with some sandpaper, a flat surface and a well squared up fence. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Naw, i have sanded the piece and it is harder to see the glue lines. I could always, once the guitar is finished and about to enter the paint stage, take a dremel bit, a very thin one, and go slighty on the joints and then cover them with bondo. That way i can avoid glue creep, and won't show up when i paint the guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted June 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 I had both side planed. It wasn't that bad. Still i wasn't happy with one laminate, so i had it cut, jointed and it's gluing right now. it has 16 clamps, and it is also clampled to a gigantic piece of sapele to distribute the force better and avoid it bends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted June 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 so i checked today...not good. So again, i had that one side cut and planed again...i'll glue that side with epoxy and that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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