Asomodai Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Ok guys, For my new \M/etal tele ive come up with this design with the help of kisakae Here is the design This is the \M/K3 in my metal tele series. Its going to boast a 24 fret ebony neck, fully scalloped 1/8. white korina ((if i can get it )) body. partially rear and partially front routed and contours for added comfort. Black washburn wonderbar bridge. Kramer hockey headstock/neck. Black schallers. 3 ply pickguard etc. ive decided that i would go for a sustainer system not sure if it will be a sustainiac or a fernandes yet but when i finish my \M/K2 tele i should know what i want. and Some sort of pickup in the bridge. A few questions, Wheres a good distrubuter of 1 or 2 peice high grade white korina? one that i can buy direct on the net preferably. Whats the general advantages of the sustainiac over the fernandes sustainer? What is the most craziest highest output pickup available on the market today? would having a true 24 fret ((not extended)) neck effect the scale length of the tele? ((Btw the headstock will not be angled)) Could i use a coil tap mounted in the tone control to switch on the sustainer rather then a micro switch ? (( i find these particulary offensive to my eyes)) cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 kind of an oxymoron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckguitarist Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 kind of an oxymoron. uhhh... ...snork? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asomodai Posted January 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 yeah ive already seen the john 5, meh i hate it lol the headstocks fugly. Not many people will like the kramer style headstock granted but meh, its my project! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckguitarist Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 yea. the john5 tele headstock is way longer then it needs to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreamLine Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 its something to do with extending the neck beyond the nut so you can do behind the nut bends easier....... but meh anyway, looks interesting Asomodai! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyG Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 i think its a cool idea tho im not so much of a fan of the Kramer hockeystick headstock, but thats just personal preference tho. if you do get the sustainer then using a push/pull pot instead of the microswitch would be easy (coiltapping is not the name of those types of pots but its what they're normally used for) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86barettaguy Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 the scale length won't be affected by how you design the neck, as long as you design the body to work with it. So you wouldn't be able to use a standard tele body with a true 24-fret neck. personally, I think that the kramer pointy headstock would work better with a metal tele, but that's just me. I think there's a pic of a tele-like creation at vintagekramer.com, but I'm not sure. also, about the pickup, look for more than just high output. high output isn't fun if it's all mud. My suggestion would be EMGs. but then again, I don't know what you're gonna be playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 dude telecasters are for blues and jazz. undistorted blues and jazz. that is what they are mainly used for. but people use them for rock...etc. but the neck pickup of the tele is notoriously bell like and clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreamLine Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 well d'uh. is there a rule 'a tele must be a tele'? jeez man you said you liked BLS - what has Zakk done to his LP then? it sounds nothing like a normal LP should........ so? the man likes a tele shape, but wants a metal machine, so whats the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 um....... yeah it kind of does sound like a les paul........ just it doesnt get as clean and gets dirtier. he played a regular LP for a while and it still sounded like zakk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 dude telecasters are for blues and jazz. undistorted blues and jazz. that is what they are mainly used for. but people use them for rock...etc. but the neck pickup of the tele is notoriously bell like and clean. Saints preserve us, Snorkie's joined the Guitar Police - I guess he wasn't born yet when Page cut all those Tele solos on Led Zeppelin albums. Dude, how'd you get so inflexible at such a tender age? Asomodai, go 'head on - I like the banana headstock on a Tele, it's pleasingly irreverent. And, yes, you could use push-pulls to control the sustainer, but I think youd need two switches, on-off and mode select. The only thing I don't like about my Fernandes sustainer is the lame-a** guitar they put it in. It might respond a little slower than the Sustaniac, but I can't verify that, I've never A/B'd 'em. You can get Limba (Korina is a madeup Gibson word) at Gallery, Gilmer (but they've got a $100 minimum), and A&M Wood Specialties, among others. And Wes can probably aim you at the hottest pickups in the world! Build on, brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 no i know. but why a tele body....... whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Well, I like Teles cuz they're light, comfortable, easy to throw around, well-balanced... and then there's that perverse, evil joy in playing something dark and disturbing on the same guitar Vince Gill uses. Kinda like putting a pickup truck bed on a Bentley... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asomodai Posted January 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Why a tele body ? i first started playing on a telecaster, it was great im used to them and i love the look, the weight of them etc. My first tele has been modded with a seymour duncan hot rails which is also coil tapped to keep its twang. ive installed a midi system into it, replaced the nut etc. I dont mind paying so much for whatever wood as long as its good quality i earn a decent amount of money and i dont mind paying extra for good wood. it would make sense to use a lp body for this project or a superstrat, but i never am comfortable with a big slab of wood like the lp. and superstrats are way to light in my opinion. I dont mind the pickups sounding muddy. nothing a good eq wont sort out. im asking for the highest gain pup on the market. like, the kent armstrong motherbucker the dimarzio x2n etc. well couldnt i tap the volume as well as the tone pot? to activate the sustainer? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 motherbucker is the highest. by FAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy McFeely Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 steve morse used to play a tele... clean and dirty and loud and quiet etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Why a tele body ? i first started playing on a telecaster, it was great im used to them and i love the look, the weight of them etc. Awright, cuz, testify! well couldnt i tap the volume as well as the tone pot? to activate the sustainer? Oh, definitely - didn't mean to imply that it wouldn't work, only that you'd need two switches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page_Master Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 i really like your idea of metal tele. besides, Devin Townsend of Strapping Young Lad has been using ESP Telecasters loaded with EMG 81 for over a decade, so what's the problem? in my opinion, you can get any guitar shape, use a low tone sounding wood for the body [Limba or Mahogany] and then load them up with high output humbuckers and you can't go wrong in terms of a metal guitar. so by all means, go for it dude! i think [but i could be wrong] you will not find a pickup more powerful than a Mastertone SPA-4. they are Australian and quite pricey, but since you earn good money http://www.projectguitar.com/uploads/emoticons/default_biggrin.png' alt=':D'> i think you should consider them. Mastertone - Humbuckers just scroll down untill you see SUPA PHAT ASS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Litchfield Custom Gutars Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Think about the new Carved top teles. They frekin rock. I sa DO IT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Litchfield Custom Gutars Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Now would you mind sauing why this is dumb idea and wont work again, Snork? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLS Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 i really like your idea of metal tele. besides, Devin Townsend of Strapping Young Lad has been using ESP Telecasters loaded with EMG 81 for over a decade, so what's the problem? in my opinion, you can get any guitar shape, use a low tone sounding wood for the body [Limba or Mahogany] and then load them up with high output humbuckers and you can't go wrong in terms of a metal guitar. so by all means, go for it dude! i think [but i could be wrong] you will not find a pickup more powerful than a Mastertone SPA-4. they are Australian and quite pricey, but since you earn good money http://www.projectguitar.com/uploads/emoticons/default_biggrin.png' alt=':D'> i think you should consider them. Mastertone - Humbuckers just scroll down untill you see SUPA PHAT ASS. I thought he played Gibson explorers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Ah, yes, the Mick Mars signature Kramer - he's easily one of the most under-rated guitarists in recent history. Very bluesy, not really impressive on the albums, but live he was monstrous. Not pretty, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page_Master Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 i think you are getting confused with ESP Explorer: <<< that's Dev's guitar of choice. he has 3 Explorers: 2 black ones and a white one. his ESP Tele's can be seen live now, rarely. only when he tours Canada and Japan he uses one of his newest guitars, an ESP Telecasters with a quilted maple top loaded with 81's - i don't have the pic of that, but back in the day he did use EMG loaded ESP Teles all the time: <<< trust me they are all ESP - 1 black one with white binding and a white one shown below. when i say back in the days, i meant when he was in the Wildhearts with Vai and early S.Y.L. he even used ESP Horizons. Devy has always been strictly an ESP user. he has never played Gibson Explorers in S.Y.L. the closest a Gibson has ever got to S.Y.L. was when Jed used an SG in the "Heavy as... " days - and i can't find the pic of that because the site is down at the moment. he told me this at a store sign in, S.Y.L. toured Australia last year in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum5545 Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 Why use limba? It seems like an awfully pretty wood just to paint black. Why not something like poplar? It's cheaper, and still a good tonewood. skibum5545 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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