Mahelcaya Posted February 28, 2004 Report Share Posted February 28, 2004 Ok I going to attempt (not on a guitar for now, on a scrap of wood ) a inlay with EPOXY resin , I stressed out the guy at the paint shop, and this is what we ended up with: I add some white chalk powder in the epoxy , then add the catalyst ( dunno if that is correct spelling .... ) , and fill the routed cavity, wait various hours, and once dried up i sand it down to wood level. I will try to pigment the white resin with universal color pigments, and see what comes out. Anybody try this yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezerboy Posted February 28, 2004 Report Share Posted February 28, 2004 kick me if i'm wrong, but doesn't epoxy resin shrink? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted February 28, 2004 Report Share Posted February 28, 2004 Concider yourself kicked I've never had a problem with shrinkage using it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezerboy Posted February 28, 2004 Report Share Posted February 28, 2004 darn lol ah well, asking questions is what life is about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahelcaya Posted February 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2004 it's drying up now, tomorow I'll sand it and let you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpa Posted February 28, 2004 Report Share Posted February 28, 2004 I was hoping it would polish out clear and smooth. I inlayed some blue stained abalone. Countersunk them into the fretboard and then filled with epoxy. Couldn't sand the abalone because that beautiful blue would get sanded off. I glued the inlay in using epoxy mixed with rosewood dust and then covered with clear epoxy. Some spots turned out ok, others not so ok. But I never had any shrinkage problems. However, the epoxy isn't as crystal clear as I hoped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahelcaya Posted February 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2004 In my case , I am filling the cavity only with the resin, and no shell or solid material, I colored it dark red, and will try sanding it down, I'll post a pic or a link if I get a decent result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted February 29, 2004 Report Share Posted February 29, 2004 i have seen entire fretboards (of a fretless bass)coated with epoxy resin....i think www was going to do one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doktorziplok Posted February 29, 2004 Report Share Posted February 29, 2004 i've worked with clear epoxy (casting miniatures) before. most of the stuff i've used clears up beautifully when you use a hair dryer on it. just set the dryer on high/hot and wave over the resin, taking care not to melt anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted February 29, 2004 Report Share Posted February 29, 2004 Welcome to the forum doktorziplok That also helps to speed up the dry time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahelcaya Posted February 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2004 Ok I sanded down the excess resin, down to wood level, I took a Picture of it , the color was bright red, untill I added the catalizer , it darkend a lot (almost purple) . I think I'll need to fill a bit the grain before pouring the dyed resin, because the pigment filtered a bit around the edges of the routed cavity. The inlay is real smooth , I think I'll practice a little more, and probably soon try to inlay a guitar body. Does anyone know what finish will apply well on the resin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doktorziplok Posted February 29, 2004 Report Share Posted February 29, 2004 That also helps to speed up the dry time yes it does. however, i'd suggest waiting for the resin to cure naturally so as to avoid rippling, splattering, or forcing dust/hair into it. i've always waited for the resin to become solid, yet tacky, to use a hair dryer. and another tip: if you're having problems with air bubbles in your resin you can build a vibration table. simply clamp your [object to be filled with resin] to a piece of plywood and lay on a level surface (i suspend it between two sawhorses). then take the sandpaper off your orbital sander, turn it on, and press against the plywood. voila! the vibrations shake the structure forcing air bubbles in the resin to rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted February 29, 2004 Report Share Posted February 29, 2004 yeah it looks pretty cool man as you said there is a little bleeding, but im shure you could get it to work perfectly with enough practice.... Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahelcaya Posted March 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 Pics I did another test, this time no chalk in the blend, I filled a bit the pores with shellac before pouring the resin, but still a bit of pigment bleeding...... And did not put enough resin on the inlay, as u can see and probably my desk table is not flat straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotrock Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 Would it be possible to gelcoat the inside of the hole and use casting (polyester) resin? Would that give a solid colour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahelcaya Posted March 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 I am using Epoxy resin with universal waterbase concetrated pigments, the resul is great , dunno about poliester resin, never tried it, I need some strong porefiller for the sides , shellac does not seem to do it properly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mahelcaya Posted March 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 I am looking for some glow in the dark paint ( fluorescent may be the name...dunno) to blend with the resin. For now I am testing the opaque pigments, I have some alluminium fine dust to blend in for metallic effect, and I tried some thick bronze color metallic waterbase thick paste (WOW that was long). Post pics , I am interested in the subject ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mahelcaya Posted March 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Great links ! thanks If i make an epoxy resin inlay with that it should look great in the dark, does it last in time (I mean does it ever ware out and not glow after years? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahelcaya Posted March 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 Pics of a Epoxy resin with alluminium powder, blended toghether, it has a few handcoats of shellac. ..... Still need to seal better the grain before pouring the resin.....any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotrock Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 Super glue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 Pics of a Epoxy resin with alluminium powder, blended toghether, it has a few handcoats of shellac. ..... Still need to seal better the grain before pouring the resin.....any suggestions? I would fill the grain with filler, and then shoot a coat or two of lacquer over it all BEFORE routing the inlay area. That'll stop the epoxy getting into the grain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mahelcaya Posted March 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 looks NICE ! Pouring the resin on a glass mirror will make it uniformly flat like a sheet of paper or veneer, or did you do something in particular like fine sanding it before peeling it off the glass? What do you use for hardner? Are you talking about a product that is not the catalyst? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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